So if you are at a baseball game and a hitter swings at a pitch 2 feet over his head and bloops a double into RF you're going to yell "Good eye"?

Seems logical/smart to me.

This guy gets it.

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d'oh

i suck

Well, I don't dislike Rizzo then.

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Abreu will be better this year though. Right?

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JORR returns from the bathroom and his buddy says, "You won't believe this, that hitter just swung at strike three and the ball was behind him!!! But he advanced to first on the dropped third strike."

"That guy has a good eye I'll tell ya" - JORR

A blind guy stands at homeplate and gets drilled in the pecker with a fastball.

According to JORR he has a good eye...

If he did that 40% of the time he'd have a GREAT eye.

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According to One Post a guy that has 2 walks and hits .100 has a better eye than a guy with 1 walk and hits 1.000.

At this rate...it's going to be a LOOOONG season!

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Yogi made the Hall of Fame with an eye like that. And Vlad will too. That's exactly what a "good eye" is. See the ball and hit it.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
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You know you've lost an argument when you bring up silly shit like this. How many times have Rizzo and Abreu reached on dropped third strikes?

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The point has eluded you.

Nope, as you can see I've talked about walk rates, not aggregate number of walks. Big difference.

No, that is what hitting is. Drawing a walk is a completely different skill.

Oh, you're a modern walk zombie who has read too many Absracts. I'm sure you overvalue Darrell Porter too. Anyway, there is no reason to coax a walk when you can see the ball and drive it into a gap.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Ok, we are making progress, you at least appear to understand that hitting and walking are two distinct, albeit related, skills.

They both have to do with seeing the pitched ball. You just hate the FACT that Abreu has been more successful at such than Rizzo.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

So walk rates is more important than OBP. Your posts fail the eye test.

Based on what?

OBP.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

No. Not practical. But funny.

Kindly point out where I said walk rate is more important than OBP. Just use the quote function, should be easy for you.

Yep, they both have to do with visibly seeing a pitched ball, no question about that. A catcher's ability to field his position also has to do with seeing the pitched ball, so do numerous other things. That doesn't mean that there aren't divergent skills necessary to be successful in different ways depending on an action or non-action as it relates to the pitched ball.

Once the ball is seen , the skill to draw a walk is a combination of 1) the ability to determine if the pitched ball is going to intersect a three dimensional area and 2) the ability to stand.

The skill to reach base on a hit once the ball is seen involves 1) determining where the ball with be in proximity to the hitter at a given point in time in which the hitter can 2) strike the ball with a cylindrical wooden rod, and 3) some degree of good fortune.

So again, let me ask you this simple question. If someone swings at a pitch 2 feet over their head and dribbles the ball 5 feet down the third base line but beats the throw to first would you cheer "Good Eye."

Again, this is a yes or no question, so you can refrain from pulling your bullshit cart along for your response.

Quote your own stupidity, I've done it enough. The fact you think somebody who gets on base less than someone else has a "better eye" than the guy with the higher obp is laughable. Feel free to make up more stupid hypotheticals to mask your dumb-ass opinion. Maybe throw some babip and TTO in there to muddy the waters. Just use the reply function, should be easy for you.

Hard to quote something that wasn't said isn't it? Thanks for participating though.

You forgot to add a stupid hypothetical. Here's one so people don't feel cheated, hypothetically I'd rather have a guy who slugs 2.000 on pitches 2 feet out of the strike zone and never walks than a guy that slugs .600 on strikes with a walk rate of whatever the fuck walk rate you think is a good walk rate. What? That's stupid? So are yours.

not for me

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Are we using the ol' little league definition of good eye that is used to encourage a kid who has no other hope of reaching base other than a walk?

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