"I will not take this night for granted". Perfect.

"Spotlight", the dark horse. Still need to see it.

Well another one they instantly regret. File it with Argo as shit we'll all forget about a month from now.

Awesome.

I think Chris Rock solved the racial divide in America with his performance tonight. The Elmhert Steve's of the world lost.

I guess that's the end of Trump's presidential run. That means that Hillary will be the most racist candidate left.

It was okay

http://www.moviefone.com/2016/02/28/osc ... monologue/

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Rock was good. Nothing too groundbreaking or controversial.

I laughed at the Black History moment thing with Jack Black. Funny bit by Angela Basset


It doesnt really matter who won. Even just an Academy Award Nomination seemingly holds weight in Hollywood.


Good for DiCaprio though. He should have won years ago for Growing Pains: The Movie

I didn't watch it. I just saw the video I posted.

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I wasnt responding to you specifically. I didnt click that link

Best line of the night, in my opinion:

It’s not fair that Will (Smith) was this good and didn’t get nominated. It’s also not fair that Will was paid $20 million for Wild Wild West, okay?”

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Yeah I tried to quote it in the other thread but I lol'd at home hearing that.

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wgn morning news condenses the entire night down to 2 minutes.... it is about 90 seconds more than i need. do these rich assholes really think lecturing viewers on politics and world issues is going to make them look like anything but out of touch rich people?

ha, george clooney's smug acceptance speech "cloud"

South Park is one of the few places you'll find liberals getting mocked as much as conservatives.

I'm looking forward to a cartman/trump parody

Already a whole episode dedicated to Trump. (they make the show like the monday before it airs so its always current)

http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s19e02-where-my-country-gone

Where has my country gone?

Where has my country gone?

It was a land of opportunity that we held dear But now all these other assholes are comin' here.

And where's my country gone? It was just here like, two seconds ago.

'Cause when they said that this was the land of the free I'm pretty sure that they were referring to me And my country's gone!

It got upset and now it's wandered away It took 43 Presidents to make us stand tall And just one black guy to unravel it all Country gone!

Please tell it that we need her back home.

There's a great big hole in the liberty bucket 'Cause someone forgot to tell the foreigners to suck it! And now they're all hanging out on my lawn...

trumpets come up and play "Feels So Good"

And now they're ruining my song Makin' it sound like Chuck Mangione.
Where has my country gone?

I agree. That was good.

Not shoehorning a major part for a black actor into The Revenant?

The best part about all of this is that box office wise, the last two years in question, were the best ever for movies starring black people. And not only some black actors, but overwhelmingly black, with black storylines. In fact, that is quickly becoming a sure bet even when the black population is around 13%. That is anything but racism, unless it's some kind of racism that involves white and hispanic/latino people spending money to see black people act.

Being a guy who likes numbers, I really struggle with a lot of this social justice stuff because inevitably, the career activists need to operate in the gray area when the numbers don't go their way, and they need to justify their paychecks. That's how you get anonymous polling of college age women to craft the 20% number, and"rape epidemic" narrative, when only two out of five choices fit the legal definition of rape/sexual assault. You cannot find mention of the 1%, DOJ statistic anywhere in a discussion unless it is being awkwardly explained away.

The racial stuff is even more nebulous.

But at least shining a light on this stuff will give us better numbers to go on. I just have very little hope that the activists will accept what they show.

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If that's true than wouldn't that support the idea they would be represented at the Award shows?


Or is it just that they happened to not be good enough this year?

Im a big Idris Elba fan but havent seen Beasts yet. That's the one that seems legit.

I haven't seen it either, perhaps because it seemed like a movie created by Netflix solely to be an "important" film and Oscar darling. (Not that other movies don't aspire to that.) I was really surprised that it was basically shut out of everything.

I think Rock's most thought-provoking comments had to do with the fact that blacks not being represented at the Academy was nothing new (it's been the case in like 75 out of 88 years). But back in the 50s and 60s, blacks had more pressing concerns than who was nominated for best supporting actor or cinematographer. It doesn't make discrimination right, but I took him to mean that it's a sign of progress that we are debating the lack of black acting nominations instead of discussing lynchings.

And he's also right about the sexism...why are there still separate categories for men and women? Is it to head off any claims of sexism if men won all the awards in a combined format?

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Beasts was OK. I was a little let down by Cary Fukunaga personally, but I'm colorblind and apparently his best work in Beasts was his use of color. Still very excited to see what he does next.

The acting in it was kind of bad. Idris Elba does a professional, good job but its hardly his best work. He's drifting into "Idris Elba plays <role>, as Idris Elba" territory which is great for Bond, but not great for anything else. The movie is catastrophically sad, I had trouble finishing it.

Since when has box office take ever gotten Tyler Perry acknowledged?

We now all know that Oscar trophies have a lot to do with whoring your movie to the academy, but there also has to be a significant performance. Some of those movies were nominated for probably the best parts of them - like writing. Although I don't know what about Compton's writing made anyone think it was worthy of being nominated. I'm still shocked that anyone thought it was good on any level. Not to mention how fictionalized the story was.

I have Netflix so I did see Beasts. The child actors steal the show. Elba is just kind of there, doing a believable African accent. Good but not noteworthy aside from the topic. It can be a difficult watch at some points.

So no, I don't think anyone got robbed because of their skin color this, or last year. And there is a fine history of these academy people admitting to nominating black actors without even seeing their performances, in movies that tackle slavery, etc. So that would in fact be white guilt within the very academy that is also supposedly racist.

At some point 2+2 has to equal 4 for me to start taking any of this social justice shit seriously.

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Sometimes it can be about objective things like numbers but other times it's a bit more complex. Ignoring for a minute this year's Oscars there are legitimate questions about the standards we use to judge "art" and how those standards unwittingly exclude particular aesthetic traditions or trends. Since there is no objective metric with which to judge "art" (box office doesn't count when it comes to art, as I'm sure you'd agree) then a very valid question arises regarding the attitudes and experiences of those judging what constitutes good art and what doesn't, and why should those standards continue to set the bar for movies up for awards at something like the Oscars.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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i don't know, isn't it a little counterproductive to have "beasts" in the title for a predominantly black cast? "beasts of the southern wild", "beasts of no nation"...you're just feeding the elmhurst steves of the world.

"creed" was snubbed. if "mad max" can get a director/picture nomination, "creed" should have. and michael b. jordan definitely deserved an actor nod.

Wife and I watched it yesterday afternoon before the awards and we both found it to be excellent

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I just saw it. I would say it was an entertaining music movie. Probably on the same level of "Notorious" which didnt have the crazy social media/Dr Dre/Apple push.

Which parts of the story did you think were fictionalized?

Agreed. Jordan was better than Stallone. Stallone gave a good performance and one really great scene but Jordan was great throughout.