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 Post subject: Re: So Call Me Benedict
PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:01 pm 
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I just think a grown man who is supposed to be a respected executive wearing a gorilla suit is far more absurd than Crane Kenney in a Cub jersey.


JORR's love for Theo has no bounds...

You do know that if the Cubs win a World series while he is here, Theo gets into the conversation as the best GM ever in baseball. For sure HOF status and beyond...like it or not, it happens...

:P :P :P :P


To have built World Series champions in Boston and the North side of Chicago, for the 2 teams that had/ have gone longest in each league without winning a title....HOF for sure. The fact that he has done his job in very different fashions in the 2 cities, as a result of very different spending constraints in Chicago (initially) makes it even more impressive. I didn't enjoy the losing in the first few seasons, but understood it was a necessary element. To see 40% of the starting rotation traded away 2 years in a row at the trade deadline wasn't fun either. But having guys like Arrieta, Rondon, Ramirez, Grimm and Strop in place as a result of those deals, makes it all worthwhile. Now we can look back on the guys traded away (Dempster, Garza, Feldman and Maholm) knowing none of them would probably be able to earn a spot on the team today if they tried. Theo has not been perfect (Edwin Jackson is a glaring mistake), but he's been damn good.

If this was posed as a hypothetical it was done very poorly. I dont think it was, though.


Read a bit more carefully. BigFan suggests that IF the Cubs win a World Series......my response was to that hypothetical scenario and why I use the words had/ have when discussing the number of years each had/ has gone without a Championship. Lets not read anything into the post. I know that luck/ injuries figure heavily into each season as well as talent. I believe a Championship will be won in the near future, but I can't say with any certainty it will be this year. But this year is when genuine contention begins, barring injuries to key players.

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 Post subject: Re: So Call Me Benedict
PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:20 pm 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Can Someone get me a Frank Cubs Post count in the last week? O/U 50?
You could easily do this , and you start dozens of threads in the Sox section every season.

You? Obsessed?

Ha ha ha. Yes.


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Tues 5-3
wed 1-1
Thur 5-1
Fri 6-2
Sat 6-0
Sun 8-0
Mon 6-0

Total 37-7

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 Post subject: Re: So Call Me Benedict
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:56 am 
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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I just think a grown man who is supposed to be a respected executive wearing a gorilla suit is far more absurd than Crane Kenney in a Cub jersey.


JORR's love for Theo has no bounds...

You do know that if the Cubs win a World series while he is here, Theo gets into the conversation as the best GM ever in baseball. For sure HOF status and beyond...like it or not, it happens...

:P :P :P :P


To have built World Series champions in Boston and the North side of Chicago, for the 2 teams that had/ have gone longest in each league without winning a title....HOF for sure. The fact that he has done his job in very different fashions in the 2 cities, as a result of very different spending constraints in Chicago (initially) makes it even more impressive. I didn't enjoy the losing in the first few seasons, but understood it was a necessary element. To see 40% of the starting rotation traded away 2 years in a row at the trade deadline wasn't fun either. But having guys like Arrieta, Rondon, Ramirez, Grimm and Strop in place as a result of those deals, makes it all worthwhile. Now we can look back on the guys traded away (Dempster, Garza, Feldman and Maholm) knowing none of them would probably be able to earn a spot on the team today if they tried. Theo has not been perfect (Edwin Jackson is a glaring mistake), but he's been damn good.


What were the spending constraints in Boston? His signature move was being able to spend more money than cash strapped teams on draft picks resulting on those teams picking lesser but signable players while superior players fell to teams willing to pay the price. When the purse strings were opened at the MLB level, Theo buried the team and was run out of town.

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 Post subject: Re: So Call Me Benedict
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:02 am 
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Antiesmo wrote:
Sox fan here, or actually ex sox fan. When Theo Epstein was available, Ricketts went out and got him. When Joe Maddon became available, Epstein fired Renteria and got Maddon.
Meanwhile Reinsdorf utilizes cronyism as his chief method of operating sports franchises, and in doing so shits on the fans of the franchises he owns. I'm sick of him and his mo. Loyalty to your country, your family, and friends. But I watch sports for entertainment, and that means winning, and that is not going to happen so long as Reinsdorf uses the Sox to surround himself with ass kissers, and that will never change. Go Cubs, goodbye Sox.


Reinsdorf never wins...except that year he did. Good riddance.

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 Post subject: Re: So Call Me Benedict
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Reinsdorf never wins...except that year he did. Good riddance.
7 rings.

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 Post subject: Re: So Call Me Benedict
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:59 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Reinsdorf never wins...except that year he did. Good riddance.
7 rings.


He lucked into having Michael Jordan win 6 of them for him. Bringing Basketball jewelry into a conversation dealing with Reinsdorf's capabilities as an owner of a Baseball franchise, makes no sense either. As a Baseball owner the smartest thing he ever did was blackmail the state into building him a new ballpark and maintaining it as well. Illinois should have called his bluff and if he moved the team....good riddance.

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