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I wrote the title because you people expect it of me.

Nevertheless, Bernstein has often said the down state crackers, specifically Champaign crackers, hate Chicago because their tax dollars go to "Black people" in Chicago. So, now those crackers have Lovie. The obvious question: Will the Champaign crackers kill Lovie?

Lovie Smith: :shock:

Beardown: Yeah, buddy. No joke. Should have talked to Bernstein before you took the job. He knows all about this stuff from growing up in Deerfield and from currently living in his gated white community on the North side. You better win. Only way to stay alive. Even if you do it's only 50/50.

Lovie Smith: :shock:

Beardown: Don't believe me, ask Doc.

Doc: Wait...what?

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Wonder if Danny will share is MMA knowledge with us again. He pounded Rousey and the UFC, saying they created a myth with her, by not fighting anyone good. Then the girl that beats her, loses in her first title defense, in which Rousey has already beat twice. I'm guessing this is never brought up, unless they hear a Jim Rome sports minute

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That's equally as racist as the Redskins name and logo!!!!!


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Wonder if Danny will share is MMA knowledge with us again. He pounded Rousey and the UFC, saying they created a myth with her, by not fighting anyone good. Then the girl that beats her, loses in her first title defense, in which Rousey has already beat twice. I'm guessing this is never brought up, unless they hear a Jim Rome sports minute


I understand how Dan fooled people at one time with his alleged sources for teams that he should have someone to actually speak to...but to even give any credit to his MMA thoughts...I cant think of less of a reason to listen. Just the fact he is mentioning MMA tells me that a meeting was had and Danny boy was instructed to talk to sports fans and stop being a PENIS.

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I wrote the title because you people expect it of me.

Nevertheless, Bernstein has often said the down state crackers, specifically Champaign crackers, hate Chicago because their tax dollars go to "Black people" in Chicago. So, now those crackers have Lovie. The obvious question: Will the Champaign crackers kill Lovie?

Lovie Smith: :shock:

Beardown: Yeah, buddy. No joke. Should have talked to Bernstein before you took the job. He knows all about this stuff from growing up in Deerfield and from currently living in his gated white community on the North side. You better win. Only way to stay alive. Even if you do it's only 50/50.

Lovie Smith: :shock:

Beardown: Don't believe me, ask Doc.

Doc: Wait...what?

Beardown: :lol:

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Well, I though it was good!!!!!


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Beardown wrote:
I wrote the title because you people expect it of me.

Nevertheless, Bernstein has often said the down state crackers, specifically Champaign crackers, hate Chicago because their tax dollars go to "Black people" in Chicago. So, now those crackers have Lovie. The obvious question: Will the Champaign crackers kill Lovie?

Lovie Smith: :shock:

Beardown: Yeah, buddy. No joke. Should have talked to Bernstein before you took the job. He knows all about this stuff from growing up in Deerfield and from currently living in his gated white community on the North side. You better win. Only way to stay alive. Even if you do it's only 50/50.

Lovie Smith: :shock:

Beardown: Don't believe me, ask Doc.

Doc: Wait...what?

Beardown: :lol:



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Dan dusted off his "Illinois is in the news, time to call everyone outside Chicago a racist" column.

Dan must fear for his life when he goes to an Illinois football game that someone might discover he's from Chicago.


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(CBS) We can debate whether or not Lovie Smith can coach, whether or not somebody two decades removed from the college ranks is ready to recruit or if he can be salesman enough to renew and sustain belief in the University of Illinois football program of which he’s now in charge.

What we can’t argue is that Smith is the first black head coach for football or men’s basketball in the history of either sport at the school and that it matters both internally and externally. Football has been played there since 1890 and basketball since 1905, so that’s 237 total years of white leadership of the most important programs, even as both teams became increasingly populated by African-American players.

It has been the subject of open discussion and disagreement at the trustee level as recently as 2012, when the approval of Tim Beckman’s hiring as football coach was voted against in symbolic protest by two board members, who cited the “sad irony” of the university’s efforts at diversity contrasting with its coaching history.

This isn’t to say that new athletic director Josh Whitman moved as an activist or did anything other than hire who he thought was the best man for the job, but only to recognize the significance at a place that’s still riven by a deep and serious cultural divide.

Managing the ongoing conflict between rural downstate Illinois and the city of Chicago has long been a difficult task for the university in general and major athletic programs in particular. The games take place surrounded by a demographic that’s deep red and rock-ribbed, people often openly resentful of city dwellers to the north who are seen as unworthy of any funds from state tax dollars. The racial subtext to this bitterness is barely hidden, if at all.

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Yet these are many of the people who actually attend games, the locals otherwise unaffiliated with the college. They matter in their use of discretionary income, so the school can’t turn its back on their interests.

Meanwhile, the school’s leadership and financing are largely Chicago-based. The money fueling football and basketball comes mostly through well-heeled alums in and around the city, and the area remains the primary source of athletic talent, much of which is African-American.

This uncomfortable dynamic can be seen in how the endless dispute has played out over the school’s brazenly racist mascot, Chief Illiniwek, a cheesy caricature of a native American. It’s not official anymore – technically discontinued for obvious reasons – but independent incarnations are still tolerated due to the weakness of the university’s stance. Officials hid behind the NCAA when they ended the insulting spectacle of a frat-boy in Sioux-style garb mincing around pretending to honor the Peoria tribe, essentially saying they got rid of it because they had to, not because they wanted to.

The down-staters who cling to the Chief do so not due to any real love for the minstrel show itself but for what it represents – something of theirs taken from them by progressive influences that represent a changing world in which they are increasingly uncomfortable. The controversy continues to shine a light on the peculiar makeup of a university community separated by many geographical miles and often different values.

It’s clearly meaningful, then, that Smith got this job at this time, and all the better because of how it’s happening. The fact that he’s the first black head coach at Illinois isn’t the first headline, and that’s just fine: It’s good that the football discussion is instead immediately top of mind. Smith brings an unlikely – perhaps even ideal – combination of assets to a program in need of them, with his experience in both college and the NFL, understanding of Chicago and calm demeanor befitting a leader of young men.

The black man with the east Texas drawl just happens to be the right guy for Illinois football, and that’s no small thing.

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Well that article is exactly what Beardown predicted.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Well that article is exactly what Beardown predicted.


Well, he has written the same article 46 times.

He's gotten more mileage out of those 6 paragraphs than Don Pierson talking about 37 year-old quarterbacks.

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The games take place surrounded by a demographic that’s deep red and rock-ribbed, people often openly resentful of city dwellers to the north who are seen as unworthy of any funds from state tax dollars. The racial subtext to this bitterness is barely hidden, if at all.


Or, maybe they are openly resentful of a city dweller who loves to paint an entire area as a bunch of backwards hicks and racists.

And maybe they are even more resentful when that same city dweller has a history of making sexist, racist, and generally less-then-progressive comments himself.


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The correct spelling with Lovie there now is "CHAMPaign"!

Urban Meyer was over heard saying..."Oh crap...."

BTW, talking to Boers at Stoney Point over the week end,
he and his peeps knew this was coming since the day Lovie
Let go by Tampa.

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This uncomfortable dynamic can be seen in how the endless dispute has played out over the school’s brazenly racist mascot, Chief Illiniwek, a cheesy caricature of a native American.


Here's a fun game: play Mad Libs with Dan's modifiers.

This endless dynamic can be seen in how the cheesy dispute has played out over the school's uncomfortable mascot, Chief Illiniwek, a brazenly racist caricature of a native American.

See how I mixed up all the modifiers, and yet the essential meaning of the sentence is unchanged? That's good writering!

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I don't think Chief illiniwek is a caricature. racist maybe.

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Well that article is exactly what Beardown predicted.


That's right up there with predicting that tomorrow will be Tuesday.

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BTW, talking to Boers at Stoney Point over the week end,
he and his peeps knew this was coming since the day Lovie
Let go by Tampa.


just like he knew butch davis was not going to workout as phillip fullmer's replacement in Tennessee


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Gotta love Dan with his bleeding heart talking about women reporters and their tough lives of dealing with creeps. When he was that creep a few months ago.


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has played out over the school’s brazenly racist mascot, Chief Illiniwek, a cheesy caricature of a native American.


Except, it wasn't a caricature, it was historically accurate...for the Blackfoot tribe, not the Illini, and that is what made continued use of the character racist: the school knew it wasn't representing the Illini people (they were tattooed head to toe and wore loin cloths), but continued to use it anyway as a means to "honor" them. It's the complete disregard for the history of the people that was despicable and racist, essentially saying that all Native American tribes were interchangeable and indistinguishable.

Actually, to look at the historically-kinda-accurate Blackfoot garb and call it a "cheesy caricature of a native American" is also kinda racist, oddly enough in the same way Illiniwek was/is. Weird, huh?

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the insulting spectacle of a frat-boy in Sioux-style garb mincing around pretending to honor the Peoria tribe,


Except that:

1. Again, Blackfoot.

2. The Chief was always a senior in the Dance/Music department, the largest collection of GDI's on campus outside of the engineering quad.

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The down-staters who cling to the Chief do so not due to any real love for the minstrel show itself but for what it represents – something of theirs taken from them by progressive influences that represent a changing world in which they are increasingly uncomfortable.


And what, exactly, is wrong with that? Enjoying something for a long time, and then not liking when changing viewpoints outside of your control or input dictate that what you enjoyed, and which hasn't changed in decades, is now wrong, and bad, and you are a bad person for ever having enjoyed it?


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And what, exactly, is wrong with that? Enjoying something for a long time, and then not liking when changing viewpoints outside of your control or input dictate that what you enjoyed, and which hasn't changed in decades, is now wrong, and bad, and you are a bad person for ever having enjoyed it?
Continuing to enjoy something that you admit is racist is what is wrong about it.

Not exactly a hard concept given the content of your own post.

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Did Dan & Terry ever apologize for making homosexuals the butt of endless jokes over the years?

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Did Dan & Terry ever apologize for making homosexuals the butt of endless jokes over the years?


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Continuing to enjoy something that you admit is racist is what is wrong about it.

Not exactly a hard concept given the content of your own post.


Who is "you" in this sense? Because believe me, the townies that showed up for The Return of The Chief around '08 or '09 or so didn't understand, much less admit, that there was anything "wrong" with the mascot.


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[, the largest collection of GDI's on campus outside of the engineering quad.?


GDI= good dolphin imitator

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