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I wouldn't want any kids around. Adults say shit that kids don't need to hear and adults shouldn't have to watch what they say or do in a clubhouse because of kids. Fuck Adam LaRoche! Kenny did the right thing.

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Baseball has a white southern inbred Christian problem.


I was just about to say that I don't believe the claim by Tyler Dunnington (in the MLB section thread) that he's heard multiple teammates and coaches say they wanted to kill gay people--after all, I've never heard a single person in my life express that desire--but maybe I'm just blessed to not have found my way into those circles.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam LaRoche
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Also: Why did Williams raise the issue in the middle of an upbeat camp, with the Sox preparing to compete in the hotly contested AL Central, rather than establish a new policy before the players even arrived in Arizona?

Because the White Sox are just out-of-touch enough to not know that by doing this they created a highly shareable, opinionated front in the oppression Olympics. You gave the white, southern, inbred Christians a chance to point at themselves as the TRUE VICTIMS (black team prez ratchets this to 1000x) and act like their family values are under attack. Naturally the whole dumb clan of them is standing right in line: Sale, Eaton, I'm sure Frazier too would #familymatters this shit if he wasn't brand new to the org and angling for some fat Jerry bucks while he begins his AL-accelerated late career decline. Notice how Jose Abreu, who was forcibly embargoed from his entire family by the weight of US foreign policy, doesnt have much to say about any of this. He's learned quite a bit of English and I'm sure he has thoughts on it that wouldn't be too kind to LaRoche.

KW thought he'd ask LaRoche to tone it down and LaRoche would say "Oh okay boss I get how this is kinda weird and creepy, how about we just do home games and maybe a few games when were in the south?" and that'd be fine and it'd be over. They'd give Drake LaRoche the inverse Hawk Harrelson treatment for 2016. Instead LaRoche took it as an attack on his lifestyle and riled the whole base into a frenzy about how great a dad this guy must be for being way too close to his kid.

Great post.


BTW, I need Hawk's take on this like a crack addict (or 2015 Adam LaRoche) needs a hit


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Per many media members, some players complained.

yet, the team was about to walk out yesterday?

So, now you have a Vp who thinks he is the GM and is the asshole they all know he is.

Robin is the babysitter

And there is a split in the clubhouse between those who are pissed and those who "told" on Drake or complained.

Look at it this way...

If they win, its the spark they needed

if they lose, its the reason the Clubhouse is falling apart.

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You have no right to bring your damn kid in a clubhouse. End of story.

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You have no right to bring your damn kid in a clubhouse. End of story.

Yea, but the prequel to that story is them telling LaRoche he could bring the kid everywhere, all the time.



And that's not even a policy change, it sounds like it was part of the contract negotiations.


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You have no right to bring your damn kid in a clubhouse. End of story.




I'd agree..but his agent negotiated this in the signing..Hahn should be fired for this, its absurd.

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You have no right to bring your damn kid in a clubhouse. End of story.




I'd agree..but his agent negotiated this in the signing..Hahn should be fired for this, its absurd.


Hahn should give an ultimatum to Jerry. Either Kenny goes or he does.

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You have no right to bring your damn kid in a clubhouse. End of story.




I'd agree..but his agent negotiated this in the signing..Hahn should be fired for this, its absurd.


Hahn should give an ultimatum to Jerry. Either Kenny goes or he does.

I hope Hahn has his bags packed.

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You have no right to bring your damn kid in a clubhouse. End of story.




I'd agree..but his agent negotiated this in the signing..Hahn should be fired for this, its absurd.


Hahn should give an ultimatum to Jerry. Either Kenny goes or he does.


2005 means more than the Jordan era

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I hope Hahn has his bags packed.

He'd land on his feet and maybe have a better opportunity to succeed.

Your President should not be setting the rules of the clubhouse. He shouldn't be undermining the GM.

Jerry's organizations are messy.

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I bet the Hispanic guys bitched. You know how macho they are.

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I bet the Hispanic guys bitched. You know how macho they are.

Well its certainly not the trailer park contingent like America noted.


It was probably no one.


Ill bet KW saw someone messing around with Drake one day, thought about the bad year last year and just snapped and said FUCK THIS SHIT.

That would be sooooo Kenny


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I bet the Hispanic guys bitched. You know how macho they are.

Well its certainly not the trailer park contingent like America noted.


It was probably no one.


Ill bet KW saw someone messing around with Drake one day, thought about the bad year last year and just snapped and said FUCK THIS SHIT.

That would be sooooo Kenny


That's probably about how it happened. That's how the table got flipped. I think the Sox were listening to music after a loss and Kenny lost his shit. Probably best to keep him away from the team. I don't think the kid should be treated like a team member, but this is way more of a distraction than doing that ever was.

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but this is way more of a distraction than doing that ever was.


but when Ozzie was doing crazy shit, it was keeping the heat off the team


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Or maybe Coop bitched.

Someone is Kenny's mole.

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I believe it was said here that Daryl Boston is the mole.

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but this is way more of a distraction than doing that ever was.


but when Ozzie was doing crazy shit, it was keeping the heat off the team


I never liked Ozzie either.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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but this is way more of a distraction than doing that ever was.


but when Ozzie was doing crazy shit, it was keeping the heat off the team


I never liked Ozzie either.


2005 doesn't happen without him.

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2005 doesn't happen without him.


Right. They probably win about 103 in the regular season without his stupid Sunday lineups.

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If LaRoche changes his mind, Kenny is in a bind. Obviously, a lot of the players think he's an a-hole.
If LaRoche comes back they will have to pay him and either cut him or trade him for nothing and they will be stuck with the $13 mil.
I hope his agent shoves it up Kenny's ass.


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Kenny Williams was right to tell Laroche to scale back on the family outings at the ballpark. It is after all a workplace. If he'd told him to keep his son at home completely then that would have been out of line, but less than 50% is more than reasonable.

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Kenny Williams was right to tell Laroche to scale back on the family outings at the ballpark. It is after all a workplace. If he'd told him to keep his son at home completely then that would have been out of line, but less than 50% is more than reasonable.


I agree except it appears they already told him it was fine and used it as a spiff to get him to sign.

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Well
(1) LaRoche sucks
(2) I'm nearly positive LaRoche was not completely honest about how often little Drake was gonna be in the clubhouse
(3) The Sox could not have expected the kid to become a 26th man


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It is certainly possible that Drake is a better player at this point. Maybe the kid can stay and dad can stay home? Couldn't possibly do much worse than ole pops.


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Hahn should give an ultimatum to Jerry. Either Kenny goes or he does.

This is exactly right.

This whole thing is so Sox.

Theo should be on the phone with Kenny right now, maybe he can get Sale in a deal :wink:

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"Quite frankly, part of the appeal is his presence in the clubhouse," Hahn said. "I can't tell you how many different club officials and scouts, and even players I've heard from since this leaked out, as well as when doing our due diligence on Adam, that just raved about what he brings to the clubhouse."

When they signed him.

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Also, probably not a good idea to agree with his agent before making a deal and then changing it a year later when
that agent is one of the biggest in the business and represents your biggest everyday player and many others.
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I wouldn't want any kids around. Adults say shit that kids don't need to hear and adults shouldn't have to watch what they say or do in a clubhouse because of kids. Fuck Adam LaRoche! Kenny did the right thing.


Not exactly apples to apples, but a few years ago in our bowling league, a guy brought his young son sometimes. He would actually ask people to watch their mouths, and hide the nudie playing cards. Sorry Jack, this is a men's league. This is no place for children. If my wife has to work late on a Tuesday, then I don't go bowling. I'm sure as hell not dragging my kids up there.

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Kenny was fired/promoted, just in case he isnt aware, that was the intention.

The intention was to remove him from DAILY operations. It was done because Kenny is an ASSHOLE and way too many people in the organization think that of him.

Now, Jerry didnt stipulate how much Kenny would be gone or how many days he should be there and because of this unclear message, Kenny has worked his way back into the thick of things.

Kenny then tells LaRoche to not bring the kid around "Dial it back" I believe is the accepted words used. WTF does that mean?

Does that mean send the kid home for 1 week then back to US cell for 1 month?

And thus my point. You gave a player/employee a long leash for a 1 year, then gave him a vague description and this s what you get when you dont set clear rules.

If rules are not clearly spelled out they are created by acceptable actions and the White Sox accepted the actions for over a year. They created the rules.

Nobody is arguing they cant do this, hey should have done it.....its they way Kenny and kenny alone did it.

Still amazes me he is employed.

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Kenny certainly has created a big time negative vibe in the clubhouse.

It is amazing he is still an "executive".

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