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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:40 am 
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Well, as I said above, there's a case to be made for the blind acceptance of the woman's word. Obviously, I'm not going to make it. And I'm certain Baffoe's convictions would quickly fade were he the one being wrongly accused.

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I didnt read the whole article. I will say that I understand being annoyed when people use an outlier to argue against the norm.


The problem is, it's not the outlier he's claiming it is. He's accepting the third wave feminist party line that only 2% of claims are false with zero evidence to support such a claim.

I thought he was talking about the rarity of rich white people getting fucked by the court system.


and why do the poor get fucked?

because they have to use public defenders...like Julie Di Caro

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Looks like Mateen Cleaves is the latest celeb to be placed on the chopping block.

If what we know is true about rape statistics relating to celebrities, there's about a 70% chance the accusations are false. Maybe lower that to 50% since the DA feels there's enough meat on the bone to charge him.

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We should stop citing the false-accusation statistics with famous people who can be shaken down. I mean, if some 20-year-old lunchbox majoring in "fuckin' business n' shit" is accused of raping a girl, yeah, I'll buy your 2%, he probably he raped her. There's so little to be gained.

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Looks like Mateen Cleaves is the latest celeb to be placed on the chopping block.

If what we know is true about rape statistics relating to celebrities, there's about a 70% chance the accusations are false. Maybe lower that to 50% since the DA feels there's enough meat on the bone to charge him.


You know, I'm beginning to think that that Darren Sharper fellow didn't get a fair shake.

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I have no idea what the number might be. Neither does anyone else. But anything that gets repeated often enough becomes "fact".

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I have no idea what the number might be. Neither does anyone else. But anything that gets repeated often enough becomes "fact".


I'm cool with us deciding the number for celebrities.

I nominate 80% chance of false accusations when no charges are filed and then 46.5% chance of false accusations when charges are filed.

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I have no idea what the number might be. Neither does anyone else. But anything that gets repeated often enough becomes "fact".

Its as amazing as when Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.


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I wonder what Baffoe, Julie and the other SJW's will have to say about this-

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I wonder what Baffoe, Julie and the other SJW's will have to say about this-

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If that's true it pisses me off. Frankly, if people are falsely accusing folks, you demean real victims and you forever stain the "famous" person that you accuse.

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Interesting that the accuser's name is Hailey P.....

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shakes wrote:
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I have no idea what the number might be. Neither does anyone else. But anything that gets repeated often enough becomes "fact".


I'm cool with us deciding the number for celebrities.

I nominate 80% chance of false accusations when no charges are filed and then 46.5% chance of false accusations when charges are filed.


Nice touch using a fraction. Every made-up stat seems more legitimate with a decimal point.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I have no idea what the number might be. Neither does anyone else. But anything that gets repeated often enough becomes "fact".


I'm cool with us deciding the number for celebrities.

I nominate 80% chance of false accusations when no charges are filed and then 46.5% chance of false accusations when charges are filed.


Nice touch using a fraction. Every made-up stat seems more legitimate with a decimal point.


Agreed. Makes you think Baffoe and co. would be better off with 2.6% instead of 2%. Now whenever I hear that stat all I think about is milk.

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I wonder what Baffoe, Julie and the other SJW's will have to say about this-

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Isn't it obvious? "They" got to her. It's what they do.

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We should stop citing the false-accusation statistics with famous people who can be shaken down. I mean, if some 20-year-old lunchbox majoring in "fuckin' business n' shit" is accused of raping a girl, yeah, I'll buy your 2%, he probably he raped her. There's so little to be gained.


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Only this dumbfuck Baffoe could turn this LaRoche thing into a racial issue.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Only this dumbfuck Baffoe could turn this LaRoche thing into a racial issue.


:lol:

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Everything with this idiot is a culture. Rape culture. Ignorant MLB player culture. How about Bernstein/clone culture?

I wonder if Baffoe wears a cape whenever he flies in to save DiCaro from a troll.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Does he really believe the wrongly accused aren't owed an apology by someone?


They should receive apologies in private while being condemned in public. It's about optics.


You know, I can accept the potential morality in a philosophy that favors society as a whole over particular individuals. And maybe the concept that rape survivors (or accusers, if you prefer) should simply be believed as a collective, as has been suggested by Jessica Valenti and some others, due to the greater good attained via the recognition of the prevalence of sexual assault is a good approach for our society. I have yet to be convinced of that, but I am at least open to the concept.

There are a couple obvious problems with such a philosophy. The first and most important being that it's very easy to sacrifice Patrick Kane or Dez Wells on the altar of modern feminism, but I don't think any of the "feminists" promoting such an idea would feel the same if the man in question were their father or brother.

Second, it seems that in the eyes of the modern feminist the "greater good of society" approach is only applicable to this single issue. When we discuss abortion and its effects on society, suddenly it becomes very personal and the rights of the individual must trump all.


There are certainly both morale and moral hazards associated with this line of thought with a list so long we couldn't begin to put a dent in it.

Promiscuous sex has negative stigmas associated with it. That's one morale hazard. "Sure, I'll go home with this guy. Worst case, I'll say he forced himself on me and no one will look down on me."

Also, it could be used as a weapon. "This guy fucked me and didn't call me afterward. Fuck him. I'll say he forced himself on me to get back at him." That's the moral hazard.

There are dozens more. And I'm not saying that as an excuse for actual predators who will always exist. It's just a reality of the risk involved with such a philosophy.

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Promiscuous sex has negative stigmas associated with it.


Not really for men though. And to me- and I think to women my age and older- destroying such a notion is a keystone of feminism. And although such thinking hasn't been completely eliminated (as evidenced by continued use of words like "slut"), such stigma has been significantly diminished in American society. And that's where you have a disconnect between older feminists and these "third wavers" who can't imagine the type of sexual repression their grandmothers had to face. (Not to mention that this modern movement is heavily influenced by lesbians who have little use for men at all.) So it's very easy for this younger contingent to accept the patriarchal idea that when they get drunk with a man, that man is responsible while they are not.

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