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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:00 pm 
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Winning a title is impressive anywhere.

I dont think doing it in a place with a long title drought really changes the accomplishment (although people's perception will be different)

The White Sox from 11 years ago are not necessarily better than the ones from 99 years ago just because they ended a drought.
Exactly.

Others disagree though.

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Bodies.

That is all we have to go on with the absence of a failed drug test.
Frank was always big and has stayed big and never got huge either.

So Maddux didn't use because he started off small and stayed small?

I don't know if Maddux ever used. I will not say that I am sure he did not. Most Sox fans swear that Frank didn't.
Please stop arguing with yourself.

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SteveSarley wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Bodies.

That is all we have to go on with the absence of a failed drug test.
Frank was always big and has stayed big and never got huge either.

So Maddux didn't use because he started off small and stayed small?

I don't know if Maddux ever used. I will not say that I am sure he did not. Most Sox fans swear that Frank didn't.
Please stop arguing with yourself.
There is no reason to believe Frank did.

I mean, he could be a member of ISIS too, but I doubt he is.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:00 pm 
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SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?


Guilty.


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Can't think of a worse ped poster boy than Greg Maddux.

Last half of his career, most stuff was under 90 mph, so, I am missing what the roids did for him?

94 was probably his career top.

So the roids made the ball move?

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Can't think of a worse ped poster boy than Greg Maddux.

Last half of his career, most stuff was under 90 mph, so, I am missing what the roids did for him?

94 was probably his career top.

So the roids made the ball move?

Straight up towards the belly button in most cases...

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11. The 312 is not a mult.



You are like the Mike Olt of mult finding .092

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Gotta hand it to Theo for winning more potential championships than the Sox have actually done.

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I never gave a rat's ass about PEDs. In fact I found baseball highly entertaining during the steroids era and I wish nothing had been done about it. As for setting a bad example.for kids, that's what parents in this country deserve for letting strangers who play sports on tv raise their kids for them.


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bigfan wrote:
spmack wrote:
11. The 312 is not a mult.



You are like the Mike Olt of mult finding .092



:lol: :lol:

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And I thought I shat out some terrible posts.... yeesh. There apparently is a tier below Elmhurst Steve.


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America wrote:
And I thought I shat out some terrible posts.... yeesh. There apparently is a tier below Elmhurst Steve.


At least Reg reader had actual responses...but we now have self confirmation your posts are shit, always remember this.

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America wrote:
And I thought I shat out some terrible posts.... yeesh. There apparently is a tier below Elmhurst Steve.


I hope you are comfortable there, as you have been there so long now.

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This guy is a false flag to make Cubs fans look bad.

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The 312 wrote:

9. That the Cell is not one of the worst ballparks in the majors (keep putting lipstick on that pig though).


I, for one, enjoy going to the Cell to watch a baseball game. Doesn't hurt that tickets cost next-to-nothing these days.

If you want a bad ballpark experience, try the Juice Box in Houston (especially with the roof closed) or the Vomit Dome in TB.

BTW, the rest are either strawman opinions, or not myths at all (does anyone actually NOT think Big Jim screwed the taxpayers? :roll: )


FAIL.

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9. That the Cell is not one of the worst ballparks in the majors (keep putting lipstick on that pig though).


I, for one, enjoy going to the Cell to watch a baseball game. Doesn't hurt that tickets cost next-to-nothing these days.

If you want a bad ballpark experience, try the Juice Box in Houston (especially with the roof closed) or the Vomit Dome in TB.

BTW, the rest are either strawman opinions, or not myths at all (does anyone actually NOT think Big Jim screwed the taxpayers? :roll: )


FAIL.


It is a much more comfortable baseball experience to watch a game on the lower level of the cell.

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I have trouble believing Comiskey ranks either above or below 15th-16th out of 30. It just is. Busch Stadium and Angel Stadium seem the same way, though at least it's really nice outside at the latter.

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And I thought I shat out some terrible posts.... yeesh. There apparently is a tier below Elmhurst Steve.


At least Reg reader had actual responses...but we now have self confirmation your posts are shit, always remember this.

:lol:

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SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?


Because Frank tried to force the MLB into mandatory testing for steroids.

Thomas was one of the major stars who never fell under suspicion during the controversies over performance-enhancing drugs in the late 1990s, and was an advocate for drug testing as early as 1995;

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Can't think of a worse ped poster boy than Greg Maddux.

Last half of his career, most stuff was under 90 mph, so, I am missing what the roids did for him?

94 was probably his career top.

So the roids made the ball move?
We know pitchers were using it just as much, and we know that size is not the only factor given the people who got caught and how they looked.

That is why Maddux is the perfect counter. They both deserve the exact same level of suspicion. So, if you think Maddux didn't use then you shouldn't think Frank did. If you think Maddux probably did then go ahead and think Frank did.

In fact, in terms of career longevity and staying elite into old age there may be more reason to suspect Maddux did.

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PED use doesn't add mph to a pitcher's fastball, it keeps them pitching more innings every season. And Greg Maddux led the NL in IP 5 straight seasons over many pitchers who were using steroids rampantly. Except for his age 36 season (199 1/3) he threw for 200 IP+ every year of his career between age 22 and age 40. That includes the strike shortened 94 season.

Maddux did steroids. There's absolutely no doubt about it.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In fact, in terms of career longevity and staying elite into old age there may be more reason to suspect Maddux did.


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PED use doesn't add mph to a pitcher's fastball, it keeps them pitching more innings every season. And Greg Maddux led the NL in IP 5 straight seasons over many pitchers who were using steroids rampantly. Except for his age 36 season (199 1/3) he threw for 200 IP+ every year of his career between age 22 and age 40. That includes the strike shortened 94 season.

Maddux did steroids. There's absolutely no doubt about it.

Probably Thomas as well.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?
For the same reason that Cubs fans think Greg Maddux never did.

You need someone better than Maddux for that comparison.

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