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pittmike
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Pirates definitely went through GM's and plans until they got to today. All plans do not work. A single ruined knee or elbow can blow up any plan faster than anything.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The "lose-on-purpose" model is the flavor of the week. You now have about half the teams in the NL failing to make an effort. What a great product. But this is what rampant Theo worship hath wrought. Dan O'Dowd pointed out the other day on MLB that this silly business is gonna end really quick as soon as the first team with a five year lose-on-purpose plan makes a bunch of bad draft picks and the five years turns into fifteen.

The NL is basically the International League with some of the rosters being trotted out by Milwaukee, Cincinnati, etc. The Cubs 97 wins adjusted for playing against real MLB teams is probably more like 88.

The problem is in order for this flavor to die out and teams 5 year plans to turn into 15 years plans 10 years has to pass. It would take a dynasty predicated on going for it every year to lure teams away from the Theo plan (which hasn't even worked, by the way). I'd say that example is the San Francisco Giants, but few teams seem to be emulating them.
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The Astros and Twins just emulated the Cubs strategy, its not just a N.L. thing. And winning 75 games while trying to be good is more embarrassing than intentionally trading away players at the deadline and sucking intentionally.

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Cicero Dave wrote:
Instead of enjoying their team, Cubs fans are putting far too much effort into hating the Sox. It's sad really.

I miss Cicero Dave. He had a good vibe.

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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
Cicero Dave wrote:
Instead of enjoying their team, Cubs fans are putting far too much effort into hating the Sox. It's sad really.

I miss Cicero Dave. He had a good vibe.

He's now posting under Frank Coztansa.

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spmack wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
Cicero Dave wrote:
Instead of enjoying their team, Cubs fans are putting far too much effort into hating the Sox. It's sad really.

I miss Cicero Dave. He had a good vibe.

He's now posting under Frank Coztansa.

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This whole Kenny Williams lying to the team is really a disgrace and you know Uncle Jerry ain't gonna do shit.

What a joke.

Sell the team Reinsdorf.
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Still no.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Still no.

What is the shittiest?

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Darkside wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Still no.

What is the shittiest?
The Cubs.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Still no.

What is the shittiest?
The Cubs.

Yeah, for sure. It sucks winning. No one likes that shit.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Still no.

What is the shittiest?
The Cubs.


BRick 100% certified UNBIASED :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Darkside wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Still no.

What is the shittiest?
The Cubs.

Yeah, for sure. It sucks winning. No one likes that shit.
They may be a year early for that.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
They may be a year early for that.

Uh huh. Good one. You.. you're good... you.

(if this was three years ago, which, it is, sadly, not)

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Yeah, for sure. It sucks winning. No one likes that shit.


Nothing like a handful of division titles to polish up since the television era really started. Lots of "winning" on their part. :lol:

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Darkside wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Still no.

What is the shittiest?


Currently, I'd consider the Brewers and Rockies shittier than the white Sox.

No mistake, the White Sox are a mess, but I'm sorry...but prior to 2009, the Cubs owned the title for decades. They were bad and they somehow found a way to capitalize on being bad.

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If Reinsdorf would have moved his team to Rosemont or Addison,they would be drawing as big (or maybe a little less) than the Coob.

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Yes. NOW they finally are.

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Yes. NOW they finally are.
Yup.

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I dont want to get ahead of myself but this does kind of feel like rock bottom.
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I dont want to get ahead of myself but this does kind of feel like rock bottom.


When you hit rock bottom, it means things get better. Are you saying things are getting better?
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America wrote:
I dont want to get ahead of myself but this does kind of feel like rock bottom.


When you hit rock bottom, it means things get better. Are you saying things are getting better?

I've got to admit it's getting better, a little better all the time. (Can't get much worse)

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Big Chicagoan wrote:
America wrote:
I dont want to get ahead of myself but this does kind of feel like rock bottom.


When you hit rock bottom, it means things get better. Are you saying things are getting better?

I've got to admit it's getting better, a little better all the time. (Can't get much worse)


That made it worse...

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Big Chicagoan wrote:
America wrote:
I dont want to get ahead of myself but this does kind of feel like rock bottom.


When you hit rock bottom, it means things get better. Are you saying things are getting better?

Yea that's why I dont want to get ahead of myself. Strong likelihood that Abreu, Eaton, Quintana and Frazier are sold at similar bargain basement (guaranteed) rates. After watching all of them be given away I think I'll be able to safely say rock bottom.
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Not anymore.

Thanks Hahn!

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Yes. There’s no close second.

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Yes. There’s no close second.

Padres

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