So I can walk into any locker room because segregation is bad?

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What?

There are places where segregation is allowed in our society. We just decided that public business dealings don't get to.

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why are lawers allowed to pick and choose cases they work on? Does a nuttish guy have to do a real estate deal for the Aryan brotherhood?

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Come out and make whatever point you think you are making.

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again refusing to answer the question.

when and why is it acceptable to deny service due to certain beliefs and not others? under what circumstances? discrimination? what does that mean? yes a black guy should be served in a diner. should a muslim plumber have to work in a hog slaughtering facility?

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As a business that operates in the public sphere, it is not acceptable to deny services based on gender, race, or sexual orientation. You should be willing to provide the same services to all of those people.
The hog slaughtering facility is not a person who is being denied services based on their race, gender, or sexual orientation. It isn't anywhere close to the same thing.

Now, if that same Muslim plumber puts a message on his website saying "NO JEWS" then he is also guilty of discrimination and deserves to be treated the same way that a baker who will make a case for a man and a woman but not a man and a man.

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so if you run a spa that gives Brazilian waxes to women. you have to give them to men too?

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time to cut your losses...

ANSWER. THE. QUESTION.

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Hey I do not have to do anything for a Pope. All I have to do is show you for the third time that this law that Darko started the post with likely has nothing to do with the enormous amount of crazy Catholics that do not reside in Mississippi.

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I would assume so. At a minimum, I assume they need to also provide a similar service to men.

You are missing the only good example you can really come up with, and that is Curves. However, it seems like they actually either exist in a legal grey area or operate under a special exemption that is similar to the separate bathrooms that were discussed before.

I'd really like you to make a point though. The discussion here is about someone not wanting to bake a cake for two men while they will bake a cake for a man and a woman. What does that have to do with all of your other questions?

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I understand that this state does not have as many Catholics as other states.

What does that have to do with the fact that the Pope likely agrees with the Mississippi law?

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the pope isn't going to make a pronouncement on the morality of baking or not baking cakes for gay weddings. that's not how it works. he will make general statements about discrimination and religious freedom. he's not going to get into a back and forth on message boards about "legal gray areas" as you put them or "cans of worms" as I put them.

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Exactly, and those general statements indicate that he agrees with the Mississippi law, just like he agrees with the suit against Obama for the birth control stuff, and how he met with gay hating city clerk.

So, when I say that when the Pope refers to "religious liberty" he is referring to things like this I am correct.

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Because for no reason I can figure out you turned a thread about a law in the deep south state of Mississippi into a Catholic debate again. Darko went off about Catholics but nothing there was connected to or should have spurred a multi page debate about the fucking Pope.

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What are you mad about exactly?

Catholics who follow the Pope would agree with the Mississippi law, including Seacrest I assume by his lack of answers to any question.

So, if you prefer, I can say "Catholics + other Christians" then I can do that.

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Debate or argue Catholics all you want and I probably will follow along many times. Even as a non practicing Catholic now it just seems old and tired to make a dumb Catholic debate in a clearly bible belt deep south born law. It isn't only you but I swear this place can turn a thread about orange juice production into a seven page debate on how the Pope is awful for not coming out publicly on the awful treatment of LBGT migrant orange pickers in Florida.

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my guess, which is the best anyone has, is that the pope would say go ahead and make the gay cake if you want, but if you don't want to support gay marriage don't make the cake. there are a couple (one?) of hot button issues for the pope. promoting human life is one (the one?) of them. he is not going to support gay marriage. maybe he would "tolerate" it in as much as he doesn't get involved in US politics.

I don't think the pope would support this specific law since he is a pragmatist and realizes this alienates more people compared to any minimal benefits one could conceive of.

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You contradicted yourself a few times in that post so I'm not really even sure what you mean.

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You quit. I win.

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Ahem... Darko did not go off about Catholics. I used my Catholic upbringing as a setting of context for opinions on the perversion of Christianity as a whole. Please read my posts if you want to reference them.

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Noted. I wasn't trying to disparage you. Your post had emotion rather than trolling.

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Well all right then.
That... that's nice.

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Were you aware that the law provided the ability for Catholics to be a likely target of discrimination as well?

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Yeah the poor catholics are just gonna be the target of more and more discrimination.
What a horrible life of tortures and agony and persecution they live.

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We'll probably never have a Catholic president!

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Ask Seacrest if he thinks the law is good or bad!

He must have missed the 5 times I asked him...

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We need one of those like we need a hole in the head ...

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Dude. It's not like you're the only one he starts to ignore when he's cornered and his hypocrisy is showing. He'll ostrich until you stop asking.

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Is there a no in there somewhere?

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