It is currently Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:27 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 132 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82152
That knee injury is going to prevent him from catching for the next couple of years. His play in the outfield is apparent to everyone but Steve. Also many of you seem confident that he is going to be surpassed by others. Where does his career go from here with this team?

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82152
If they trade him, it will prove to be a monumental mistake by theo in not moving him this off season despite some really strong evidence he is a dh

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Stop drinking.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Posts: 48800
Location: Bohemian Club Annual World Power Consolidation Conference & Golf Outing
pizza_Place: World Fluoridation Conspiracy Pizza & WINGS!
Yes.

_________________
You know me like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm
Posts: 57201
Image

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."


Frank Coztansa wrote:
I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82152
Is he going to be surpassed or isn't he. I have heard and read all day that he isn't an important piece and that others are going to easily replace his production. Now I'm treated as foolish for suggesting such a piece should be moved

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Posts: 48800
Location: Bohemian Club Annual World Power Consolidation Conference & Golf Outing
pizza_Place: World Fluoridation Conspiracy Pizza & WINGS!
good dolphin wrote:
Is he going to be surpassed or isn't he. I have heard and read all day that he isn't an important piece and that others are going to easily replace his production. Now I'm treated as foolish for suggesting such a piece should be moved


He will be moved.

We don't need him.

_________________
You know me like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
The Cubs should cut thier losses and deal him.

Even after a devastating knee injury there are AL teams with holes at DH who would throw together some talent for him. Nothing like what the Cubs would've got this offseason, but something. Would you be OK if the White Sox traded Carson Fulmer (had a rough outing yesterday night) for him? Maybe not that far, but RIGHT NOW after the injury if the Cubs would take Danish and E Johnson for him I'd probably make that deal.

But Theo is not going to suffer that kind of bruise to his ego. No way he acknowledges the mistake he made not dealing Schwarber this offseason for serious major league starting pitcher. Schwarber is going to whither on the Cubs until 2019, then he'll sign on to an AL team as a bargain bin pickup. He's on the Kendrys Morales career path.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82152
It would have been a great move to ship Baez and Schwarber to the al for a pitcher. Instead Schwarber is hurt, Baez is going to get exposed as his replacement and they had to throw 30+ million on lackey

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Posts: 48800
Location: Bohemian Club Annual World Power Consolidation Conference & Golf Outing
pizza_Place: World Fluoridation Conspiracy Pizza & WINGS!
good dolphin wrote:
It would have been a great move to ship Baez and Schwarber to the al for a pitcher. Instead Schwarber is hurt, Baez is going to get exposed as his replacement and they had to throw 30+ million on lackey


2005

It's so sad.

_________________
You know me like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68612
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
It would have been a great move to ship Baez and Schwarber to the al for a pitcher. Instead Schwarber is hurt, Baez is going to get exposed as his replacement and they had to throw 30+ million on lackey


2005

It's so sad.


Nonsense.

2005 was fantastic.

Hopefully you'll get to feel that experience.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm
Posts: 57201
good dolphin wrote:
Is he going to be surpassed or isn't he. I have heard and read all day that he isn't an important piece and that others are going to easily replace his production. Now I'm treated as foolish for suggesting such a piece should be moved

maybe you guys could start one more thread about this situation? We are in need of one more.

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."


Frank Coztansa wrote:
I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Posts: 48800
Location: Bohemian Club Annual World Power Consolidation Conference & Golf Outing
pizza_Place: World Fluoridation Conspiracy Pizza & WINGS!
I always get confused because the Sox won a World Series and I could still give 2 fucks about Cominsky Park but the Cubs haven't done shit and Sox fans still have to check with their doctor because it's been more than 4 hours.

_________________
You know me like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82152
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I always get confused because the Sox won a World Series and I could still give 2 fucks about Cominsky Park but the Cubs haven't done shit and Sox fans still have to check with their doctor because it's been more than 4 hours.


The truth will set you free

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:36 pm 
Offline
1000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:45 am
Posts: 13529
Location: People's Republic of Urbana
pizza_Place: Papa Dells
My question is, why a Sock fan cares so damn much about the Cub to start a thread about the impact of young Kyle's injury?

Wouldn't said thread starter's time be more well spent figuring out how to use the damn quote function after 10+ years?

_________________
We all have private ails. The troublemakers are they who need public cures for their private ails.- Eric Hoffer


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Posts: 48800
Location: Bohemian Club Annual World Power Consolidation Conference & Golf Outing
pizza_Place: World Fluoridation Conspiracy Pizza & WINGS!
good dolphin wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I always get confused because the Sox won a World Series and I could still give 2 fucks about Cominsky Park but the Cubs haven't done shit and Sox fans still have to check with their doctor because it's been more than 4 hours.


The truth will set you free


Carl Williams?

_________________
You know me like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82152
Mr. Reason wrote:
My question is, why a Sock fan cares so damn much about the Cub to start a thread about the impact of young Kyle's injury?

Wouldn't said thread starter's time be more well spent figuring out how to use the damn quote function after 10+ years?


I care about many things. I care about you

My question is completely valid

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
good dolphin wrote:
Mr. Reason wrote:
My question is, why a Sock fan cares so damn much about the Cub to start a thread about the impact of young Kyle's injury?

Wouldn't said thread starter's time be more well spent figuring out how to use the damn quote function after 10+ years?


I care about many things. I care about you

My question is completely valid


You even write like a drunk.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Posts: 48800
Location: Bohemian Club Annual World Power Consolidation Conference & Golf Outing
pizza_Place: World Fluoridation Conspiracy Pizza & WINGS!
leashyourkids wrote:
You even write like a drunk.


If he quotes somebody correctly, we'll know he's drunk.

_________________
You know me like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:45 pm 
Offline
1000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:45 am
Posts: 13529
Location: People's Republic of Urbana
pizza_Place: Papa Dells
good dolphin wrote:
Mr. Reason wrote:
My question is, why a Sock fan cares so damn much about the Cub to start a thread about the impact of young Kyle's injury?

Wouldn't said thread starter's time be more well spent figuring out how to use the damn quote function after 10+ years?


I care about many things. I care about you

My question is completely valid

You must be off your period.

_________________
We all have private ails. The troublemakers are they who need public cures for their private ails.- Eric Hoffer


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82152
RFDC wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Is he going to be surpassed or isn't he. I have heard and read all day that he isn't an important piece and that others are going to easily replace his production. Now I'm treated as foolish for suggesting such a piece should be moved

maybe you guys could start one more thread about this situation? We are in need of one more.


Abc 7 had a report on Schwarber near the front of its newscast. They spent several minutes with interviews from doctors and men on the street. I listened to the radio talk about it all day...but somehow I'm the guy dwelling on this injury and its impact

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:59 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:29 am
Posts: 65734
Location: Darkside Estates
pizza_Place: A cat got an online degree.
good dolphin wrote:
That knee injury is going to prevent him from catching for the next couple of years. His play in the outfield is apparent to everyone but Steve. Also many of you seem confident that he is going to be surpassed by others. Where does his career go from here with this team?

G8 b8 m8!

_________________
"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014
bigfan wrote:
Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:31 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:13 am
Posts: 17583
Location: BLM Lake Forest Chapter
pizza_Place: Quonset
There's almost no chance that the Cubs get rid of young Schwarbs...at least not when his value is virtually nil. Why would they trade him away for a bag of balls?

_________________
Don Tiny wrote:
Don't be such a fucking chump.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:25 pm
Posts: 27055
Honestly with a guy like him i think his locker room presence is a factor. Madden might keep him around just to help the team gel. But if hes not someone the team rallys for than just dump him cause his talents are in dh land.

_________________
the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:28 am
Posts: 4034
good dolphin wrote:
That knee injury is going to prevent him from catching for the next couple of years. His play in the outfield is apparent to everyone but Steve. Also many of you seem confident that he is going to be surpassed by others. Where does his career go from here with this team?


Why would this knee injury prevent him from catching "for the next couple years"?

The only thing that will prevent Schwarber from catching in the future is that without improvement, he isn't even an adequate major league defensive catcher.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12816
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
One Post wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
That knee injury is going to prevent him from catching for the next couple of years. His play in the outfield is apparent to everyone but Steve. Also many of you seem confident that he is going to be surpassed by others. Where does his career go from here with this team?


Why would this knee injury prevent him from catching "for the next couple years"?

The only thing that will prevent Schwarber from catching in the future is that without improvement, he isn't even an adequate major league defensive catcher.


You see... Good Dolphin is a troll...

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm
Posts: 57201
Such a shame.

No one ever returns from knee injuries.

It is too bad they do not have any type of surgery or rehab the guy could do where he could come back and play in the future.

devastating

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."


Frank Coztansa wrote:
I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:28 pm
Posts: 6211
Location: Knoxville,Ill
pizza_Place: Caseys
RFDC wrote:
Such a shame.

No one ever returns from knee injuries.

It is too bad they do not have any type of surgery or rehab the guy could do where he could come back and play in the future.

devastating

Yes. Career over. Grandpa Schwarber might want to take up knitting or something less taxing. He will never play again. :lol: :lol: :lol: Love the Socks trolls. :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12816
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
Good Dolphin's trolling aside...

No, this is not the end of his career as a Cub. He wasn't an all-star last year by any means, but he was productive as a hitter. Just my perception, but Cub fandom and even the media in general associated with him because he's "baseball sexy". The big, Babe Ruth-looking type. We love our gladiators and he fits in with guys like Trout just from a stature perspective. I'm not sure he would have been able to start hitting lefties with consistency. He might have. He still may when he gets back. I'm not sure he would have become a better left fielder or catcher. He may when he gets back. I think you give him at least another 2-4 years to see how he progresses.

I think Fangraphs says it best:

The fourth overall pick of the 2014 draft sprinted through the minors and hardly paused upon reaching the majors. In 273 plate appearances he popped 16 home runs while hitting .246/.355/.487. That's a 38 home run pace. Somewhere in the transition between Double- and Triple-A, Schwarber developed contact problems. He has a discerning eye at the plate and scouts seem to think he'll trim his whiff rate. If and when he does, his power and selectiveness will morph him into one of the most feared hitters in the league. Already, he's an imposing presence in the midst of an incredible Cubs lineup. Developed as a catcher, Schwarber seemingly has little hope of remaining at the position. For one, his is an everyday bat. Unlike the Giants with Buster Posey, the Cubs aren't going to sit Anthony Rizzo to keep Schwarber in the lineup. There's also the matter of his defense behind the plate -- it's questionable and unlikely to improve substantially. In the outfield, Schwarber's defense was passable. He may continue to make a few starts behind the plate, but his future is in the outfield. (Brad Johnson)

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:28 pm
Posts: 6211
Location: Knoxville,Ill
pizza_Place: Caseys
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Good Dolphin's trolling aside...

No, this is not the end of his career as a Cub. He wasn't an all-star last year by any means, but he was productive as a hitter. Just my perception, but Cub fandom and even the media in general associated with him because he's "baseball sexy". The big, Babe Ruth-looking type. We love our gladiators and he fits in with guys like Trout just from a stature perspective. I'm not sure he would have been able to start hitting lefties with consistency. He might have. He still may when he gets back. I'm not sure he would have become a better left fielder or catcher. He may when he gets back. I think you give him at least another 2-4 years to see how he progresses.

I think Fangraphs says it best:

The fourth overall pick of the 2014 draft sprinted through the minors and hardly paused upon reaching the majors. In 273 plate appearances he popped 16 home runs while hitting .246/.355/.487. That's a 38 home run pace. Somewhere in the transition between Double- and Triple-A, Schwarber developed contact problems. He has a discerning eye at the plate and scouts seem to think he'll trim his whiff rate. If and when he does, his power and selectiveness will morph him into one of the most feared hitters in the league. Already, he's an imposing presence in the midst of an incredible Cubs lineup. Developed as a catcher, Schwarber seemingly has little hope of remaining at the position. For one, his is an everyday bat. Unlike the Giants with Buster Posey, the Cubs aren't going to sit Anthony Rizzo to keep Schwarber in the lineup. There's also the matter of his defense behind the plate -- it's questionable and unlikely to improve substantially. In the outfield, Schwarber's defense was passable. He may continue to make a few starts behind the plate, but his future is in the outfield. (Brad Johnson)

This. True.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 132 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group