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Walt Williams Neck

Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:16 pm

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veganfan21 wrote:

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

The real problem is the drafting of Rose and giving us the illusion this guy can lead the Bulls to a title.

Revisionist

correct

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Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:22 pm

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veganfan21 wrote:

denisdman wrote:

It's a pretty fair article. He properly addresses Paxson at the end.

I still can't believe the front office ran Thibs out of town. Getting players to try hard and play together is really half the battle in sports. The Bulls had so much talent this year and played so far below that talent level. But I have the Hawks/Blues and plenty of baseball to entertain myself. And it appears the Bears are close to becoming a professional organization again.

LTG thinks Hoiberg was a good hire because LTG's eye tests proved that there was better ball movement this year.

Your "eye tests" told you that the Bulls were a talent laden bunch. This in spite of the fact that Etwaun Moore, Taj Gibson, and Justin Holiday were all receiving quality minutes.

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Peoria Matt

Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:24 pm

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So has Dan mentioned the Bulls coach as a potential problem?

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Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:31 pm

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long time guy wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

denisdman wrote:

LTG thinks Hoiberg was a good hire because LTG's eye tests proved that there was better ball movement this year.

Your "eye tests" told you that the Bulls were a talent laden bunch. This in spite of the fact that Etwaun Moore, Taj Gibson, and Justin Holiday were all receiving quality minutes.

This team is a playoff team given the talent, playoff/veteran experience, and the state of the rest of the conference. This team is not a championship team. Nevertheless, this was a collosal underachievement.

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Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:51 pm

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veganfan21 wrote:

long time guy wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

denisdman wrote:

LTG thinks Hoiberg was a good hire because LTG's eye tests proved that there was better ball movement this year.

Your "eye tests" told you that the Bulls were a talent laden bunch. This in spite of the fact that Etwaun Moore, Taj Gibson, and Justin Holiday were all receiving quality minutes.

this team is not a playoff team....realist

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Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:53 pm

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This team should have made the playoffs. I don't think that Hoiberg is the biggest problem. That's an easy and convenient scapegoat. The Bulls were 10 games over earlier in the season. Injuries were the biggest problem on the team.

Hoi berg made some mistakes but I don't think they impacted the team to the extent that injuries did.

You say colossal underachievement but in the narrative thread there weren't many that had the team winning more than 50 games. That's without injuries.

The talent level on this team is overrated. Gasol slipped this year. He is winding down a HOF career. Butler isn't as good as some here think. Rose shows flashes but he will not ever be that top 5 guy again. Gibson isn't that good and Mirotic has some talent but probably has one of the worst IQs in NBA history

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long time guy wrote:

This team should have made the playoffs.

Thanks for playing.

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leashyourkids

Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:04 pm

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Don't be ridiculous, Walt. Drafting AND re-signing Rose were both moves that everybody loved and were warranted, considering he was a 23-year-old MVP. The injuries were what ruined him... that's no one's fault.

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leashyourkids wrote:

paxson has had 13 years to figure out how to build a contender... the best he could do was 1 conf finals appearance. but is uncle jerry really going to fire gar or pax with 4 years and 20 mil owed to hoiberg? what good does firing gar do if hoiberg stays and paxson still is running the show?

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Walt Williams Neck

Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

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leashyourkids wrote:

shhhhh ridiculous is my bit

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Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

shhhhh ridiculous is my bit

You're not hiding it well.

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Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

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billypootons wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

Yeah, I'm not defending any of them. They are a thin-skinned group, and they seem to love the echo chamber. But that doesn't mean the Rose decisions were bad.

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Walt Williams Neck

Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:41 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

shhhhh ridiculous is my bit

You're not hiding it well.

then it's working you asshole

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Tad Queasy

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:42 pm

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Tuned in about 4:40 or so and they are talking about how ugly the White Sox fanbase is.

These two.

Talking about how unattractive other people are.

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leashyourkids

Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

shhhhh ridiculous is my bit

You're not hiding it well.

then it's working you asshole

Relax, Walt. I was trying to set you up for a good gif. #disappointed

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Peoria Matt

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Tad Queasy wrote:

Tuned in about 4:40 or so and they are talking about how ugly the White Sox fanbase is.

These two.

Talking about how unattractive other people are.

They aren't the most self aware guys in the world.

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Curious Hair

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:21 pm

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It'd be easy to say calling Sox fans ugly is part of being the new Cubs station, but Dan was calling Sox fans a bunch of Jew-hating, black-hating poors the year they won like 86 games.

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Curious Hair wrote:

It'd be easy to say calling Sox fans ugly is part of being the new Cubs station, but Dan was calling Sox fans a bunch of Jew-hating, black-hating poors the year they won like 86 games.

The Jew-hating I can agree with...but the black-hating...disagree completely...that's the Northside.

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Walt Williams Neck

Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

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Curious Hair wrote:

It'd be easy to say calling Sox fans ugly is part of being the new Cubs station, but Dan was calling Sox fans a bunch of Jew-hating, black-hating poors the year they won like 86 games.

so Dan has been a racist since way back

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Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:04 pm

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veganfan21 wrote:

BD wrote:

I'm not sure if they publicly stated that they thought this would be a Championship level team

Quote:

"I wouldn't have taken [the Iowa State] job if I wasn't confident that I could get it where we wanted and we accomplished some good things," Hoiberg said. "We didn't reach all of our goals but we were pretty darn close getting there. This is a similar situation. I wouldn't take this job if I wasn't confident that we could continue to play at a championship level."

Quote:

"Obviously we've known Fred for a long, long time and felt very highly of Fred," Forman said. "We have great respect for who he is as a person, and we have great respect for the job that he has done. He's a talented, in-demand coach that has attracted significant interest throughout the league and was on top of our list as we began this process ... as we [visited with him] it became very apparent to us that he was the fit that we had talked about. A fit with our players, a fit with our team, and he was the right guy to maximize the potential of this basketball team."

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... ulls-coach

There you go.

The front-office is on record as saying that this is a championship caliber team, and they believed the coach was an obstacle to achieving that goal.

The target should be on them.

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Post subject: Re: 4/11: GM Who Choked Coach Called "Easygoing"

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:22 pm