Oh, I understand what you're doing. It's obvious. There is a difference between making free college possible for all and making all college everywhere free.

No one is misunderstanding you. You're just not stating the complete truth.


I think it's great that you've stopped misrepresenting his ideas after many posts speaking of massive govt takeovers and all encompassing free services.



You would have an option like that. Kinda like public schools I would think.

How is that not free child care?

If I offer you a free burrito, and instead you choose to go buy a taco, it is still a free burrito. It doesn't become less free because you can choose to not accept it.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Running as an alternative makes him a sell-out? That doesn't make him an opportunist. It means he has different ideas. And he has not fallen into line on several issues including the Iraq war. He is the only one talking about money in politics. It has been that way for years, and really as the Panama Papers are showing this is the issue of today, because everything is affected by it.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

He is running as a Democrat after yrs of claiming to be an independent. He votes with the Democrats 98% of the time. He continued to vote Democrat while being highly critical of them. He did this so that they wouldn't run a serious candidate against him in Vermont.

He had ample time to propose legislation that would curb the excesses of Wall Street and never did a thing.

He sold out the Socialist movement in order to win elections.

He also doesn't understand policy on the issue that he has used as the centerpiece of his campaign.

He also continues to use an anti Iraq vote taken years ago as a way to cover up his ignorance regarding foreign policy. It's the only card that he has to play.

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This is why you're a walking contradiction, my friend. By the way, no one gives a shit about being registered as an independent and then joining the democrats. As for the contradiction, you acknowledge "excesses on Wall Street" but then support Wall Street's preferred candidate to a guy who doesn't take money from Wall Street while making its reform a central tenant of his campaign. As they say around here, Thursdays at 5.

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For the Dems, there is one candidate who is totally owned by Wall Street and willing to take blood money from everyone. Sanders is the other.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

What does that mean? It's really great to say that PACS aren't financing his campaign but the same is true for Trump. Why should I believe that Bernie will all of a sudden do things that he hasn't even tried to do after nearly 30 years in Washington?

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He doesn't have a Super PAC. She does. Not sure what else to say on that. What do you believe that he has not "tried to do" in Washington? He has tried to get the system to change. Here is a piece from ten years ago: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... s-20050825

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I try to respect your posts but you don't make sense on a lot of this stuff. When you say that "no one gives a shit" you are using generalities. Don't you think that the DNC "gives a shit"? Maybe that's the reason they havent jumped through hoops to support him? Maybe some look at the guys record instead of simply listening to the rhetoric.

Also how can a guy with no history of changing anything be viewed as a "reform" candidate? Isn't that what Obama was supposed to be and we see how that worked out.

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If Hillary is totally owned by Wall Street as is often suggested, then what piece of legislation has she pushed that directly benefits Wall Street?

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She was not in Congress that long to have a vast legislative history, but who are we kidding? Look at all of the money going to the Clinton Foundation. Her husband singed all of the deregulation bills that led to the crash. You give Hilary credit for her healthcare efforts (which failed), so I am going to assume she gets some blame for the Clinton administration's efforts to strip Wall Street of oversight.

Also, she did have a key vote in voting for bankruptcy reform, which favored the banks of course.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/us/po ... .html?_r=0

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Feel free to respond to your Wall Street contradiction. You've never coherently responded to any of the critiques thrown Clinton's way.

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She is establishment. I will never deny that or attempt to deny it. She doesn't try and portray herself to be anything beyond that. Sanders has and that's why he is a bit of a fraud. True reformers know this.

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The crash occurred on Bush's watch however.

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What does it mean? Should I support Trump because he isn't being financed by Wall Street? It's great that Bernie hasn't made a fortune like many other people in Washington, but that doesn't tell me anything about what his policies would be or if he can be an effective president.

I just read that article and it doesn't show him trying to change anything. He's giving a guy a tour and showing him how the sausage is made. Sanders proposes amendments that he and the Republicans who vote for them KNOW WILL EVENTUALLY DIE. I ask you again, why should I believe that Bernie will be able to propose legislation that he hasn't proposed in 3 decades in Washington? Why should I believe that he can get it passed considering he has never tried and doesn't have a lot of friends in Congress? Why hasn't he proposed any of these policies if he truly cares about them?

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Exposing how Congress works isn't trying to change it? He has proposed policies and legislation, numerous times including the amendments that you mention. If you look earlier in the thread you can find legislation to break up the banks that he proposed.

Sanders knows Congress and how it works. It's is lot different being a senator vs. being president. Not even LBJ could get Civil Rights passed until he was in the White House. Sanders is the only person talking about money in politics. Clinton is smiling and taking the checks. Yet, Sanders is the "hustler" in your mind.

What are Clinton's core beliefs? Other than shifting her positions to what is popular at the moment.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

You're really comparing Sanders to LBJ? Bernie Sanders hasn't proposed ANY of the policies he's running on in 3 decades in Washington. Bernie Sanders hasn't proposed a major piece of legislation EVER. Showing a reporter how the sausage is made means nothing. Lots of reporters know how the sausage is made. Proposing amendments that you know will die is as pointless as his rhetoric. #ActionMatters

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Why do we even have a thread for Bernie and a thread for Hillary when both threads are just Nas and long time guy thinking they're pulling the coup of the century by telling a guy eating a ham sandwich that he's eating a ham sandwich.

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Seems overly complimentary.

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So posters can see why the status quo is the status quo.

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Someone has to do it. Too much chiding of Hillary supporters taking place. Also Hillary supporters are customarily dismissed for failing to see the greatness that is Bernie Sanders. It's not merely about stating the obvious, because the obvious hasn't really been stated until now.

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LBJ was considered the King of the Senate. He had to become President to pass his signature piece of legislation. You keep referring to the article that was a snippet from years of service.

What "action" has Hilary backed? What is she proposing that you find so convincing?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The media does this on a daily basis.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The media has given Sanders a pass. It's why it was so shocking to hear him fumble last week during that interview. He made it all the way to April without having to address how he would break up the banks. Why? Because they were focusing on his rallies, fundraising, ability to attract the youth vote, polling etc. They also were busy tearing down Hillary Clinton. There hasn't been any real vetting of Sanders.

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The first post in the thread is some ridiculous article link with the OP calling Sanders a fraud. He has also been called Donald Trump in this thread. And beyond that, your candidate (who will be the most disliked presidential candidate in history aside from Trump) has a history of missteps and lies so long, they couldn't even be contained to a single thread.

And to top it all off, she's gonna win, anyway! The vitriol now is mainly focused around how Sanders has the gall to continue running! What an asshole!

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We know you feel this way. You've made the same post 20+ times in this thread.

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I love the same post argument. How many times have we had to hear about Hillary's "honesty", "likability", or ties to corporate America. That dog has been hunting for a much longer period of time. My Sanders critique is a relatively newer and less popular byproduct of this.

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I don't think you all know that though. I'm confident that you all really believe that you are eating steak.

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LBJ knew how to get shit done. Bernie Sanders has NEVER gotten ANYTHING done. Please don't insult LBJ by comparing him to Bernie.

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So you're voting for Trump?

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