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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:36 am 
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Well what the hell did they think was going to happen when you force the car companys
to increase gas mileage on all vehicles and force everyone to go green??
Its their own damn fault that they keep taking away taxable items. Plus I drive 13,000 a year, but me being the lazy ass I would get stuck paying the $450 :lol: :lol:

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The $.015 per mile is likely a present value and not a future value. It'll be closer to $.025 in 9 years.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:54 pm 
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1) The 1.5 cents/mile isn't horrific in lieu of a gas tax, although it does discourage people from getting higher-MPG vehicles. But is it going to be in lieu of a gas tax, or in addition to a gas tax.

2) Oregon is doing a test of this approach, but it's completely voluntary. Also at 1.5/mile. If you volunteer, you get a rebate on your gas purchases, although i don't know how they track that. My understanding is that they're focused more on collecting usage data than trying to make money.

3) USDOT has been talking about this scenario for almost a decade. But only Illinois would be this ham-handed about trying to roll it out.

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Anyone who supports this bill is an awful human being and everything that's wrong with this country.

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Anyone who supports this bill is an awful human being and everything that's wrong with this country.

Works for me.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:39 pm 
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FavreFan wrote:
Anyone who supports this bill is an awful human being and everything that's wrong with this country.

I agree. (Jumping high-five!) Unless you're an Indian and you purchase gasoline in order to huff it, the gas tax is the use tax. You shouldn't get to have it both ways. Sorry that people got smarter about fuel consumption.

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Wouldn't this be double taxation? What a bunch of incompetent unqualified fucks.


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I predict. They go through with a usage tax and reclassify the gas tax as an excise tax. No sense letting a good tax go to waste.


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Well that should fix things.


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FavreFan wrote:
Anyone who supports this bill is an awful human being and everything that's wrong with this country.

I agree. (Jumping high-five!) Unless you're an Indian and you purchase gasoline in order to huff it, the gas tax is the use tax. You shouldn't get to have it both ways. Sorry that people got smarter about fuel consumption.



I admittedly rarely feel 100% sure about a solution to any issue. This is one I absolutely feel is easy. You tax gas consumption. Period. I had a teacher in college who was the most practical and logical professor I ever had. When the issue of vehicle taxes came up, he would become livid. He argued that tolls and vehicle taxes were completely illogical and that consumption in the form of travel was the easiest consumption tax there was - you tax gas usage. Taxing gas per gallon is efficient, easy, fair, progressive (generally), and encourages fuel efficiency. The only problem, he would admit, was that taxing gas more was politically unpopular but only because dumb voters don't realize that if they're not taxed on gas, they're taxed in other ways.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
1) The 1.5 cents/mile isn't horrific in lieu of a gas tax, although it does discourage people from getting higher-MPG vehicles. But is it going to be in lieu of a gas tax, or in addition to a gas tax.

2) Oregon is doing a test of this approach, but it's completely voluntary. Also at 1.5/mile. If you volunteer, you get a rebate on your gas purchases, although i don't know how they track that. My understanding is that they're focused more on collecting usage data than trying to make money.

3) USDOT has been talking about this scenario for almost a decade. But only Illinois would be this ham-handed about trying to roll it out.


1) They are giving you a gas "refund" at the end of the year. Have fun saving ALL your gas receipts every time you fill up at the gas station.

2) They want to put devices in our cars to track how far we drive. This bill also raises the cost of licenses plates and stickers for our cars.

3) Who is covering the cost of implementing this program? The taxpayers :lol: FKing Democrats. But , yeah keep voting for them every election cycle. Waiting for a tax on the air I breath in IL. I read somewhere that they are thinking about taxing us on how many times we use the toilet. Not a joke. :shock: Wasting water you know. :?

At least they will finally get rid of the fancy new toll system they implemented and promised to eliminate years ago... oh wait, no that is going up as well. :evil:

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