We have a center-right party and a right-fringe party and this country is too left for you? Go move to Idaho with the survivalists.

Also, the educational system doesn't cause class inequality, it reflects it. Schools aren't magic. You can pour a dump truck of money into Fenger and it won't make kids Horatio Alger their way out.

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And here's a guy saying we shouldn't align ourselves with rich Republicans. "The Republicans have fooled the middle class to vote with the rich." But Liberals never can have enough of your money. They want it all.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I answered it. You look at everything from what you see as a "practical" standpoint. I see no reason for inheritances at all. I don't think inheriting large sums of money makes a better society. But it's impossible to really discuss a philosophical point with you because you're concerned about what you believe can actually be done.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Why do you want to hoard money?

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Freedom is our Strength.

This is exactly what I wanted you to say.

Maybe now you will understand why someone who isn't rich but would like to leave something to their kids when they die would align with the "rich". Now that is the practical part of it.

If you give me the choice of "Rich people can't give their kids money, and neither can you" and "Rich people can give their kids money, and so can you" I know what I am choosing.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The people of this country tend to be left of my beliefs. I have been very open about being a Libertarian. I believe in drug legalization, gay marriage, free trade, balanced budgets, limited federal government, isolationist military policies. I support the 2nd amendment like I support the entire Constitution. I do not and have never owned a gun.

I am not a survivalist. I believe deeply in changing government policies through elected officials.

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Don't worry Dennis. The "people" will never see any more money than they do now. This evil rich billionaires will hire a thousand lawyers to skirt in every possible way that they show zero net worth at the time of their death. Their undeserving children will have already been awarded their shares in special arrangements and companies with the help of real smart people.

By the sound of some of these arguments they should just go a step further and avoid wealth in the first place. Everyone make the same salary forever and be done with it.

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Elections have consequences.

Curious Hair is a lot like Baby McNown. If he disagrees with you on politics, he's going to be really obnoxious and over the top about misrepresenting your beliefs.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

It's a great question. I do want to hoard money for one simple reason- I love to manage money. I do not like to spend money at all. I drive my wife crazy because I spend every dime like it's my last. I think you know me well enough that my background is Finance and Accounting. I love investing.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

And that's exactly what I knew you would say. Because like most members of the middle class, you're more concerned about the poor guy catching you (or your kids) than you are about catching the rich guy.

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Freedom is our Strength.

It's my fault with CH. I said a few mean things to him and even trolled him a bit. I have tried to back off and be respectful. I really don't want to make enemies around here. I love a lively debate.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

JORR, but the government is going to take away your Cubs season tickets......

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Additionally, CH is correct in his assessment of the two major parties.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Those were not inherited, but I'd be willing to give them up to benefit society as a whole. The truth is though, I'm in the middle and change doesn't start in the middle.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Love it (exactly as it is and never try to improve anything) or leave it?


Again, Im not talking about giving away money. Im talking about making it as close to fair as possible.

By European standards, yes the Democratic party is on the right. By our own historical standards, the country is much further left than earlier times periods. We have a large and significant Federal State way beyond what is contemplated in the 10th Amendment. I don't want to be like Europe.....

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"Have you ever sown a field, Lady Hillary? Have you ever reaped a grain? Has anyone in House Clinton? A lifetime of wealth and power has left you blind in one eye. You are the few, we are the many. And when the many stop fearing the few...."

Well, I have no real desire to catch the rich. However, I do have a desire to give my kids a good chance at success. So, if I have to choose a side, it will not be yours.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The Democratic Party isn't even as left-wing as it was twenty years ago. This is getting into Not Even Wrong.

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Pretty much. Rick takes a lot of heat for saying things aren't that bad in the US right now, but it's obviously true at the current moment. That's why Hillary will be our next President. As income inequality worsens, maybe it will get to the point where enough people are hurting and overhaul the system. I don't think we are close to that yet.

It might be cool seeing the wealth ladder version of Rollerball going forward though. There won't be a revolution until 50% of the wealth is in one guy's hands at the top.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

You can't be serious.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Well, they've since adopted the Republicans' make-purchasing-insurance-mandatory idea. That sounds like a move to the right to me.

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It's issue by issue. On things like gay marriage, the country has moved decided leftwards. On things like Free Trade, the Dems are probably more right.

When they do polls, it shows America is a center right country. Usually twice as many people identify themselves as Conservatives to Liberals with a large block calling themselves independent.

The current Presidential cycle is really upending stuff. It'll be interesting to see the long term impact of so much anti-trade chatter.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

The current Democratic Party seems to understand that sending someone to jail for life for getting arrested three times is a bit of an overreaction. Sounds like a (good) move to the left to me. We can go back and forth on this all day but the Democratic Party is definitely more left than the one from the 90's that still felt like it had to cater to rednecks.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

A guy who literally aided Socialist and Communist regimes while a politician in the United States is currently running pretty close to the wife of a former President, who was also a Senator and the Secretary of State. Sounds like they have become much less left-wing.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The party apparatus all but disowns Sanders, though. People say things like "well, even if he loses, it'll move the party to the left," but with vindictive thugs like Rahm and DWS around, the party is far more likely to move to the right: "they stepped to us and lost! MAKE. THEM. PAY."

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That would be nice.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

What was his "literal" aid? And the great Communist boogey-man? The Clintons literally aid the House of Suad, which is a pretty horrifying theocracy that gave us most of the 9/11 hijackers.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

If you don't know the answer to this then maybe you shouldn't vote this election.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The movie Clue told me that Socialism was evil


Professor Plum:
And what was your role in all this?

Wadsworth:
I was a victim, too. At least my wife was. She had friends who were

Wadsworth:
Socialists.

Wadsworth:
Well, we all make mistakes.

Wadsworth:
Anyway, Mr. Boddy threatened to give my wife's name to the House Un-American Activities Committee unless she named them. She refused, and so he blackmailed her. We had no money, and the price of his silence was that we worked for him for nothing. We were slaves.