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Don't worry. The last Wall Street crash is all fine now. Nothing to see here. Business as usual. Shit happens.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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Hilary got paid for another speech? Must have been a good one.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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Hilary got paid for another speech? Must have been a good one.


The people are with Hillary. Bernie can't win unless the Democratic electorate is damn near all white.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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Nas wrote:
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Hilary got paid for another speech? Must have been a good one.


The people are with Hillary. Bernie can't win unless the Democratic electorate is damn near all white.


If those same people have $300k they can tell her about there concerns over dinner. No one ever went poor betting against the stupidity of the American people.

Don't worry, Hilary will be there to renounce what ever rapper is making her white supporters feel uncomfortable at the moment come general election when she makes her shift to the center.

I am sure that she is really concerned about mass incarceration and poverty behind closed doors, when she is getting paid $200k an hour. More Wall Street fun, and more Drug War ahead. There aren't really any wars she doesn't want to fight, unless it's against inequality.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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That was a thorough, efficient ass whipping.

Like the '98 Bulls vs. Jazz Game 3 beating.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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Sanders is only winning in elections where voter suppression i.e. Caucasus occurs. The higher the turnout, the more diminished are his chances. So much for momentum.

I think that the issues that he has raised during these primaries will truly resonate going forward. I think and hope that there will be someone to pick up and carry the mantle for income inequality. It is the single biggest issue plaguing the country currently and it is an issue that Bill Clinton attempted to address last time he was President.

Deregulation of the finance industry was done partially as a way of increasing home ownership in this country. Increasing homeownership would hopefully reduce the amount of income inequality in this country, or so the theory went. Homeownership was viewed as way to increase one's personal wealth. It didn't work out that way but at least an attempt was made in that particular area.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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Hillary in true Clintonian fashion, declared by way of Chicago, D.C., and Arkansas, that there is "no place like home" last night. Saw that and couldn't help but laugh at that rather dubious proclamation.

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Sanders is only winning in elections where voter suppression i.e. Caucasus occurs. The higher the turnout, the more diminished are his chances. So much for momentum. Clinton is only winning in closed primaries. i.e. voter suppression is occurring

I think that the issues that he has raised during these primaries will truly resonate going forward. I think and hope that there will be someone to pick up and carry the mantle for income inequality. It is the single biggest issue plaguing the country currently and it is an issue that Bill Clinton attempted to address last time he was President.

Deregulation of the finance industry was done partially as a way of increasing home ownership in this country. Increasing homeownership would hopefully reduce the amount of income inequality in this country, or so the theory went. Homeownership was viewed as way to increase one's personal wealth. It didn't work out that way but at least an attempt was made in that particular area.You really could not be more naive if you believe this. And saying at least we tried when the world economy all but went under doesn't work.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Sanders is only winning in elections where voter suppression i.e. Caucasus occurs. The higher the turnout, the more diminished are his chances. So much for momentum. Clinton is only winning in closed primaries. i.e. voter suppression is occurring

I think that the issues that he has raised during these primaries will truly resonate going forward. I think and hope that there will be someone to pick up and carry the mantle for income inequality. It is the single biggest issue plaguing the country currently and it is an issue that Bill Clinton attempted to address last time he was President.

Deregulation of the finance industry was done partially as a way of increasing home ownership in this country. Increasing homeownership would hopefully reduce the amount of income inequality in this country, or so the theory went. Homeownership was viewed as way to increase one's personal wealth. It didn't work out that way but at least an attempt was made in that particular area.You really could not be more naive if you believe this. And saying at least we tried when the world economy all but went under doesn't work.



The world's economy, nor America's for that matter, "went under" during the Clinton administration. That fact is irrefutable. America's economy was in pretty good shape when he left office. There were warning signs for sure, but the catastrophic occurrences in America's economy happened under George Bush.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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I can't get behind support for Bill's policies and we all know that he wasn't responsible for the growth in the 90's. He and Reagan were more responsible for the collapse than W Bush.

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We did it! Well done boys.

Now, we must part, and I must support anyone but Hillary.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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We did it! Well done boys.

Now, we must part, and I must support anyone but Hillary.


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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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Nas wrote:
I can't get behind support for Bill's policies and we all know that he wasn't responsible for the growth in the 90's. He and Reagan were more responsible for the collapse than W Bush.


Not to worry. Hillary is against nearly everything that Bill supported.


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I can't get behind support for Bill's policies and we all know that he wasn't responsible for the growth in the 90's. He and Reagan were more responsible for the collapse than W Bush.


Not to worry. Hillary is against nearly everything that Bill supported.


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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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Nas wrote:
I can't get behind support for Bill's policies and we all know that he wasn't responsible for the growth in the 90's. He and Reagan were more responsible for the collapse than W Bush.


Reagan yes, Clinton no. Bush simultaneously increased spending while promising that the Bush tax cuts would promote growth. There is a lot of revisionism going on and it's time to provide clarification. Clinton deregulated financial industry, but it was the Bush administration that allowed it to explode. The collapse of the economy occurred yrs after Clinton left office. Deregulation was a principle tenet of free market economic theories espoused by Republicans. I don't really know if it would have exploded to the degree that it did if Clinton were President. Maybe they would have provided some regulations later.

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I can't get behind support for Bill's policies and we all know that he wasn't responsible for the growth in the 90's. He and Reagan were more responsible for the collapse than W Bush.


Not to worry. Hillary is against nearly everything that Bill supported.


I'm confident that she is.

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I'm confident that she is.


This has to be a joke, right? Half of her "experience" was being the first lady, and pushing her husband's policies.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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Nas is not joking, he's just trolling. It's the most extreme thing I can think of to say, that Hillary wouldn't continue Bill's policies. Nas internally does not believe this.

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 Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton
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I'm confident that she is.


This has to be a joke, right? Half of her "experience" was being the first lady, and pushing her husband's policies.


"Half" of S.Ct. Chief Justice Earl Warren's "experience" was being a law and order attorney general and later governor of California. He defended some progressive ideas & some failed conservative ones allegedly in the interest of public safety earlier in his career (like Hillary). But, Eisenhower & the GOP certainly didn't think they got what they bargained for not long after he took the bench and showed his actual independence.

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"Half" of S.Ct. Chief Justice Earl Warren's "experience" was being a law and order attorney general and later governor of California. He defended some progressive ideas & some failed conservative ones allegedly in the interest of public safety earlier in his career (like Hillary). But, Eisenhower & the GOP certainly didn't think they got what they bargained for not long after he took the bench and showed his actual independence.


You believe that being married to the president is the same as being the governor of California? Earl Warren made millions on the speaker circuit? Don't see what your point is.

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"Half" of S.Ct. Chief Justice Earl Warren's "experience" was being a law and order attorney general and later governor of California. He defended some progressive ideas & some failed conservative ones allegedly in the interest of public safety earlier in his career (like Hillary). But, Eisenhower & the GOP certainly didn't think they got what they bargained for not long after he took the bench and showed his actual independence.


You believe that being married to the president is the same as being the governor of California? Earl Warren made millions on the speaker circuit? Don't see what your point is.


Hillary is smart enough to have her own ideas. She's done what she needed to do to get to this point. What her boss or husband did is irrelevant.

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Back when she was First Lady she was called a near co president. She was doing stuff. But now she can change her mind at will and be accountable for nothing in her past. Got it.

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Back when she was First Lady she was called a near co president. She was doing stuff. But now she can change her mind at will and be accountable for nothing in her past. Got it.


Her husband was president and I hope we all have the ability to change our minds. If she becomes president then you can judge her.

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You must be too young to remember how strongly they were hyped up as a "team". A real woman finally as First Lady capable of being co president.

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You must be too young to remember how strongly they were hyped up as a "team". A real woman finally as First Lady capable of being co president.


I was 10 and a HW supporter. I remember the co stuff but don't remember it being a huge thing.

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yes. it was known as Billary.

and most that even liked bill clinton were not fans of hillary.


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Younger folks do not know her arrogance and shrewdness back then plays into the hate now.

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"Half" of S.Ct. Chief Justice Earl Warren's "experience" was being a law and order attorney general and later governor of California. He defended some progressive ideas & some failed conservative ones allegedly in the interest of public safety earlier in his career (like Hillary). But, Eisenhower & the GOP certainly didn't think they got what they bargained for not long after he took the bench and showed his actual independence.


You believe that being married to the president is the same as being the governor of California? Earl Warren made millions on the speaker circuit? Don't see what your point is.


Earl Warren pushed for & defended the internment of Japanese-American citizens. He did a variety of other things that he thought were what his constituents wanted. He got a truly big job and began to speak from his heart & strength of his own convictions. She certainly is capable of the same.

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