Need a solid #4 D man.

Bye-bye Shaw ( ), Rosy ( ), Weise, Flash, and Ehrhoff. Maybe Ladd and Teuvo as well?

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Not a mult.

They need to get Schmaltzy away from North Dakota and they need to sign his college free agent linemate.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

Depending on how serious the rebuild is, you have to consider moving Hjalmarsson. With his abilities and cap hit, he'll bring back serious value.

Trading Shaw's rights might get you back into the bottom of the first (Winnipeg got our pick for Ladd) or top of the second (Philly got our pick for Timonen).

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Teuvo was not good the last few months.

Shaw leaving will hurt. I love him.

I would trade Seabrook long before Hammer, but that Seabs cap hit may be an issue. Then again, I hear the Yotes may have some room.

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Not a mult.

Yeah, I'm bummed about having to lose Shaw, but the math doesn't work for keeping him here. The math doesn't work for anything. This is really bad.


Seabrook has a no-move and the Coyotes don't know where they're playing after next year, AGAIN.

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Need to sign Vesey in free agency, get Schmaltz signed, and basically cultivate a new young core with veteran leadership, because our current core is yesterday's news.

They'll have to come from college, too. Rockford has nothing to offer in terms of NHL-ready forwards other than Hartman. Rasmussen and Kero are 13ths at best.

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Presuming the NHLPA uses the cap escalator, we're looking at $74MM for the cap. Cap hits in millions:

Panik (.975) - Toews (10.5) - Hossa (5.275)
Panarin (.812) - Anisimov (4.55) - Kane (10.5)
? - Teravainen (.894) - ?
Desjardins (.800) - Kruger (3.083) - ?
13th: ?

Keith (5.538) - Hjalmarsson (4.1)
Gustafsson (.667) - Seabrook (6.875)
Svedberg (.750) - van Riemsdyk (.825)
7th: ?

Crawford (6)
Darling (.5875)

Dead cap space:
Panarin: ~2.475
Bickell: 3.425
Scuderi: 1.125
Rundblad: .475
TOTAL: 7.5

So that's about $70.2MM with three gameday-roster spots that need to be filled, two spares, a third if you need it, and some defensemen who are accounted for but insufficient. $760,000 per open roster spot, which is less than the standard entry-level contract given to draft picks. The math isn't even conducive to fielding a roster at all, let alone a good one. The problem with buying out Bickell is that because of his backloaded contract, sure, you'd get away with a mere $1MM hit for 2017, but you'd take on a $1.5MM hit in 2018 instead of no dead space at all.

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Oh, lovely, I didn't know Rozsival had performance bonuses that will be charged to next year's cap:



Time to have the year the Sabres had last year.

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I was excited about Teuvo going into this season. After watching him meekly wave his stick any time he had a chance to take the body vs. STL, I'm ready to see him go. I know he's a small finesse player, but the way he cowers whenever someone comes near him, he makes Kane look like Probert in his prime. Not asking him to lead the team in hits, but the stick wave to avoid hitting someone bugged the crap out of me.

Kid is 21yrs old.

OK, great. So he's a 21-year old puss. Next year, he'll be a 22-year old puss. Are you saying he'll grow out of his puss-itude?

Kruger, Anisimov, and Hjalmarsson are the only guys making money that you could reasonably find takers for. The way the D is, you really wouldn't want to move Hjalmarsson.

Could Stan do the unthinkable and move Toews?

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Why not move Crawford?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The guy that frustrated me this year was Seabrook. After getting paid, he looked out of shape this season and really was out of position all the time. Maybe Duncan Keith can tell him to work his ass off this offseason to get in shape.

They need that 4th D man bad. TVR is improving, but he's still on a 3rd line pairing.

Shaw will go the way of Bolland, Brouwer etc. He's replaceable. I could Teuvo being on the move too - someone will take a chance on him at his age and give you something in return.

What I am saying is, you are not done growing physically or mentally at 21. He might be bigger, he might get smarter. He has a ton of upside and skill. The Hawks do not play a physical game anyway.

Completely agree with the last sentence. But, there's still a mindset. Again, not saying he has to lead the team in hits, but he would just wave his stick when just a simple bodycheck/slowdance along the boards might have slowed a guy enough for someone else to steal the puck. There's a way to jump into a play, and there's Teuvo's way, which was to wave his stick along the ice at a Blue who came near him. I just wanted a little more effort.

I've never thought Crawford was as good as his contract or as good as other have made him out to be. However, this year I thought he played one of his best seasons...he was very good. Still, the defense in front of him is more important. You could live with a slight drop in goal tending if the defense is better. The defense has to get deeper and better.

Toews was a dropoff this year. I'm not going to go as for as CH, but you cannot argue his productivity did not equal his cap hit this year. I can only hope he was playing through some kind of injury and will return.

I cannot see a scenario where Shaw stays. The numbers don't make that possible and as much as I like him, his skills can be replaced. Sadly, I think there are 2 contracts that have to be moved in order to fix the team.....Crawford and one of the Centers. I don't like it, but I can't see any other way.

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Can't move Toews, Kane, Keith, Crow OR Hammer due to no movement clauses, unless for some insane reason they would agree to a deal. Seabs and Ladd have modified no-trades.

Teuvo regressed horribly toward the end of the season and in the playoffs this year, and yes, he was a puss. Like what was said above, I don't expect him to be a hitter, but Kane will take a hit to make a play on occasion; otherwise, he knows how to evade a hit without shitting his pants and coughing up a puck. At this point, let Teuvo be another team's project.

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Not a mult.

Yeah, I'm not knocking on Crawford. That's just a spot where you can create a bunch of cap room. I think the old time hockey guy considers the goalie to be like a quarterback or a starting pitcher. I think the Bowmans consider him more like a leftfielder. And I think they're correct. Any goalie is going to block most of the shots. Sure some are better than others, but that can be mitigated by controlling the puck, which is the Hawks' game.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I really thought last year they were going to move Crawford.

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Why even bring up Ladd? He's a(n?) UFA. There's no way they can bring him back at $4+mil.

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I included Panik in the 2017 roster. He's an RFA, my mistake.

I hope we're officially done forever with "flipping the switch," because this was the year the third-place team played like every bit of a third-place team. You guys have brushed away any complaints with Toews's diminishing production with "he shows up in the playoffs when it matters," and then he went seven games without a goal, bypassing numerous times to show up. And I'm sorry, but when you watch another #1C score back-to-back game-tying and series-winning goals, the handful of scattered assists doesn't look so good. And even with the long layoff (which isn't even that long because all these guys have to go play in the Bettman Cup over on ESPN in September), it's more likely with his hard mileage that he finishes below 58 points next year rather than above it. If you really don't give a shit about how many points Toews scores, that's fine, but then you must also admit he has become John Madden and start thinking about other people to play on scoring lines. Patrice Bergeron is the ultimate "it's not about the scoring" top-line center and he still hit 68 points on the year.

Team needs about as thorough a rebuild as can be managed, but the precarious placement of the Hawks in the Chicago sports landscape means they'll have to run the jalopy into the ground to stay relevant. It won't work on either a business nor hockey-ops level and it won't be pretty.

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It's not that you were necessarily wrong about Toews (I kinda touched on it earlier in the season as well), but it was your typical over-the-top attention whoring that got everyone's undies knotted...anyway, yeah, so Toews had a less-than-stellar series; so did Kane, Ladd, Panarin, et al. It happened; yet, the absolutely overmatched, overwhelmed, and (let's face it) BUNCH OF QUITTERS STILL took a legimate Cup contending team that did better in the regular season and appeared to be the unstoppable juggernaut that is not named the Dallas Stars to the last period of a Game Seven.

I don't know, but I have a feeling Toews will bounce back next season. Yes, the core is aging, but they have some promising young talent, and I have no doubt that they will be right in the thick of things again this time next year. Can't wait until October.

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Not a mult.

That's one way to look at it. Another way is that they traded an upcoming first-round pick, two prospects who were first-round picks, and some later picks/prospects for the pleasure of getting bounced in the first. Staring down $7.5MM in dead cap space, this was not a participation-ribbon year.

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They cannot win a cup without Toews.Who do they move to clear up cap space? I have no idea.

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Same sex, different habits - who gives a fucking shit
This won't make the species unfurl

Can't win a first round with him.

For financial, morale, and marketing reasons, you can't move Toews, you can only hope to work around him. Like Hossa, he needs to settle into a third-line role. You'd better hope Schmaltz is damn good.

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Huh...and here I thought Toews was on the 3 cup winning teams.

Yes, because it is extremely difficult to win back to back cups. That is why the Hawks won three in six years. This first round exit means they will be rested up to win the cup next season.

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Same sex, different habits - who gives a fucking shit
This won't make the species unfurl

Mike Bossy was on four straight, but I wouldn't want him today. Today's NHL is a young man's game. Entering his age 28 season with harder mileage than almost anyone, Toews is yesterday's news. 2010 is practically ancient history. People didn't even care about Twitter!

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