Accusations by other MLB players is not circumstantial evidence.

Correct. It falls way short of circumstantial evidence. It is a baseless accusation. It's the same as me saying America is not only a lousy poster on the message board, but a cross dressing hermaphrodite. It doesn't make it true, just because someone makes an accusation.

Or witness testimony.

Wrong again. Witness testimony in a case involving the use of Performance Enhancing Drugs would involve witnesses testifying to the delivery of such drugs to an individual, the possession of such drugs by an individual or the witnessing of the use (ingestion or injection) of said drugs. I don't recall baseless accusations being part of the testimony used in the hearings of Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens.

So other major league players are independently of one another completely fabricating accusations of PED use against Jake Arrieta. Only Jake Arrieta too, no players that I've seen have accused Bryce Harper, Mike Trout, Clayton Kershaw, Madbum... really anyone else in MLB, of steroid use. Multiple major league players just threw a dart against the wall and it landed on Jake Arrieta's picture and now they're out to destroy him in the media.

Our hotel smelled like dead hooker vagina (before you ask I had gotten a detailed description from beardown)

Accusations are not evidence.

Well, if he's using them, he's beaten the test 10 times.

The Dodgers faced Arrieta on April 21 at Camden Yards, and a number of their players said his stuff was comparable to that of Mets righty Matt Harvey, whom they saw three days later at Citi Field.

Arrieta turned in one of his typical major-league outings, pitching four strong innings before imploding in the fifth. But almost three months later, the Dodgers are still talking about him.

“The stuff he threw up at me was stuff I haven’t seen all year – the sharpness of his pitches, the way his fastball darted out of the zone,” catcher A.J. Ellis said. “He has really high upside. I thought it was an awesome trade by the Cubs.”

Arrieta threw 93 to 98 mph with a 90-mph cutter in his first outing at Triple A for the Cubs on Friday night; the game was suspended in the second inning due to rain. If he fails as a starter, the Cubs could always try him as a hard-throwing reliever.

Let's not bullshit that he was a soft tossing lefty scrub when they acquired him. He won 10 games in the AL east as a rookie and was Baltimore's opening day starter prior to being traded. He still throws the same speeds from baltimore, just for accuracy now.

His dominant pitch today is his slider, a pitch that was banned from Baltimore's pitchers repertoire. His problem never appeared to be stuff, but harnessing his stuff and throwing strikes. Going through scouting reports and stories when he was traded he hasn't seen a spike in velocity. still throws mid 90's heat now with a great slider.



http://www.northsidebaseball.com/archiv ... 5#p2962887

Maybe Jake Arrieta just needed to start throwing with his right hand?

Pretty sure Turd knows Arrieta is righty and was just using the term "soft tossing lefty" as a way of saying a #5 type barely hanging on.

Pretty sure Turd knows Arrieta is righty and was just using the term "soft tossing lefty" as a way of saying a #5 type barely hanging on.

Sure there was. He was a lot better than his peers.

That is the same circumstantial evidence against Arrieta.

what the hell are you talking about?

Maybe you and everyone who has suggested he is throwing harder today, needs to come to grips with the fact that is not true. Just because one idiot says something like "he throws 5-6 MPH faster now than he did in Baltimore" doesn't make it true and worthy of repeating. It's not true and all these ridiculous accusations are baseless.

Maybe you and everyone who has suggested he is throwing harder today, needs to come to grips with the fact that is not true. Just because one idiot says something like "he throws 5-6 MPH faster now than he did in Baltimore" doesn't make it true and worthy of repeating. It's not true and all these ridiculous accusations are baseless.

Im talking about the fact that Turd was clearly saying Arrieta was not some cast off (aka Lefty soft tosser) who just all of a sudden found lightening in a bottle. He was expected to be a top of rotation starter, he was just a late bloomer.

Turd knows Arietta is right handed. Everyone reading that knows what he meant.

Between this and your complete misunderstanding of Mully and Kasper's discussion, Im starting to worry about you.

We do see a player who couldnt hack it for the Orioles turn his entire career around at age 30, go on an historic run of dominance and then get accused by other MLB players of PED use. Dont have to be Sherlock fucking Holmes to get to the bottom of this mystery.

Taken from the Camden depot

Arrieta has actually seen an uptick in velocity with the Cubs. His fastball velocity jumped about 1 mph. He's throwing his cutter about 3 mph harder than his slider in Baltimore. And even his curveball has seen a 2 mph bump. Cutters tend to be late-career pitch additions, so it is interesting to see Arrieta add the pitch in his late-20s and also still see an increase in his velocity across the board. Perhaps that won't continue. But for at least one season, Arrieta pitched better than he ever did in Baltimore -- by far.

So the article I posted had him sitting between 92-98... When will i see this uptick and a 99-100 mph fastball. Everything I have ever seen said mid 90's fastball. That is still what he is at.

And big surprise his cutter is 3MPH faster than the slider, its a different fucking pitch.

Time for a nap Walt.