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http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/john-st ... 201767519/

john stewart is coming back!! 4 year deal, hoping to air before the election. this ought to be a thing

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I doubt Maher's going anywhere for awhile.

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he will do it for 10 more years im sure

but stewart will probably be there for at least 20

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Bill Maher is so much better than John Stewart.

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I like Real Time better than I liked the Daily Show, but Maher has some glaring flaws that are hard to get past. When it comes to medicine, he's an irretrievable kook, giving credence to that dumbass who claimed to have cured Charlie Sheen's AIDS. Also, for a guy who likes to say he's not just hard on Republicans, he'll give it to Democrats, too, you say ONE BAD THING about Barack Obama and he flips his shit.

Real Time is actually the opposite of Jon Stewart's Daily Show, as we're seeing now with Trevor Noah's fart in church of an iteration: with Real Time, the concept itself is the real star, whereas the Daily Show had become a vehicle for Jon Stewart and that's it. As much as I like Maher, he could have guest hosts or step down altogether and with the right replacement, the show wouldn't miss a beat.

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I don't agree with that at all. I mostly agree with you when it comes to Maher's politics, even started a thread about it here, but he's a funny motherfucker. That's why I still watch his show. He's not some gifted pundit or talk show host, IMO. But he's consistently funny, which is not something I can say for Jon Stewart.

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I like Real Time better than I liked the Daily Show, but Maher has some glaring flaws that are hard to get past. When it comes to medicine, he's an irretrievable kook, giving credence to that dumbass who claimed to have cured Charlie Sheen's AIDS. Also, for a guy who likes to say he's not just hard on Republicans, he'll give it to Democrats, too, you say ONE BAD THING about Barack Obama and he flips his shit.

Real Time is actually the opposite of Jon Stewart's Daily Show, as we're seeing now with Trevor Noah's fart in church of an iteration: with Real Time, the concept itself is the real star, whereas the Daily Show had become a vehicle for Jon Stewart and that's it. As much as I like Maher, he could have guest hosts or step down altogether and with the right replacement, the show wouldn't miss a beat.




I don't think Bill goes anywhere, they might have them on different nights. Bill flips his shit about Obama, because he(bill) thinks he is black. One of his issues is, not having the right dynamic and chemistry between his red and blue guests. And his guests that he has come on towards the end, always fucks up the flow. Usually they never contribute anything to the political talk. Like, Snoop Dogg you are dropping a new album....

I stopped watching Trevor. I like him, but having a South African comment on American things just doesn't compute for me.


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Sounds boring and bad.


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Lol you guys know maher really well for someone who doesnt like him

I agree about the medicine part. He doesnt really get it. He should have never had that sheen doctor on. That was a joke.

He flips about obama because he wants obama on the show. He also genuinely likes obama. But i think obama wont do it because he knows maher will ask tough questions and not settle for a political answer. I can see obama doing it first week of jan when none of it matters anymore.

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I don't agree with that at all. I mostly agree with you when it comes to Maher's politics, even started a thread about it here, but he's a funny motherfucker. That's why I still watch his show. He's not some gifted pundit or talk show host, IMO. But he's consistently funny, which is not something I can say for Jon Stewart.


I mostly agree with this take. Maher is alright, pretty even handed when he has guests on. Stewart treats his guests cordially if they agree with his stance, if he doesn't agree with them he has them on to brow beat and puff his chest.

Although Maher, in my opinion, has always had the same stance when it comes to Israel.


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I don't agree with that at all. I mostly agree with you when it comes to Maher's politics, even started a thread about it here, but he's a funny motherfucker. That's why I still watch his show. He's not some gifted pundit or talk show host, IMO. But he's consistently funny, which is not something I can say for Jon Stewart.


I mostly agree with this take. Maher is alright, pretty even handed when he has guests on. Stewart treats his guests cordially if they agree with his stance, if he doesn't agree with them he has them on to brow beat and puff his chest.

Although Maher, in my opinion, has always had the same stance when it comes to Israel.


I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.

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I don't agree with that at all. I mostly agree with you when it comes to Maher's politics, even started a thread about it here, but he's a funny motherfucker. That's why I still watch his show. He's not some gifted pundit or talk show host, IMO. But he's consistently funny, which is not something I can say for Jon Stewart.


I mostly agree with this take. Maher is alright, pretty even handed when he has guests on. Stewart treats his guests cordially if they agree with his stance, if he doesn't agree with them he has them on to brow beat and puff his chest.

Although Maher, in my opinion, has always had the same stance when it comes to Israel.


I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.


Well, fine, they are both dogshit.


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I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.



Most conservatives are kooks. I really hate people trying to run this country by the bible or by allowing everything. Settle in between. Be Moderate Republican like myself.


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Real Time has had multiple conservatives on several times. They don't want to do the show because their insane ideas will be ridiculed.

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I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.



Most conservatives are kooks. I really hate people trying to run this country by the bible or by allowing everything. Settle in between. Be Moderate Republican like myself.


What are your thoughts on Barry Goldwater?


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Real Time has had multiple conservatives on several times. They don't want to do the show because their insane ideas will be ridiculed.


This.

And I agree that the guest who joins the panel usually does nothing but slow down the show.

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Real Time has had multiple conservatives on several times. They don't want to do the show because their insane ideas will be ridiculed.



What constitutes on "insane idea" in your mind?


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Real Time has had multiple conservatives on several times. They don't want to do the show because their insane ideas will be ridiculed.



What constitutes on "insane idea" in your mind?



Not giving out marriage certificates because it is against your beliefs while being on hubby #3 or #4.


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I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.



Most conservatives are kooks. I really hate people trying to run this country by the bible or by allowing everything. Settle in between. Be Moderate Republican like myself.


What are your thoughts on Barry Goldwater?



Well before my time. You are also talking about a different era. From what I read, he was a VERY conservative guy.


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Cashman wrote:
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Real Time has had multiple conservatives on several times. They don't want to do the show because their insane ideas will be ridiculed.



What constitutes on "insane idea" in your mind?



Not giving out marriage certificates because it is against your beliefs while being on hubby #3 or #4.


Anything else? I'm genuinely curious.

The current generation of conservatism has melded with religion and the outcome is a bundle of contradictions wrapped in a riddle. Hypocritical is the word to describe it.


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I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.



Most conservatives are kooks. I really hate people trying to run this country by the bible or by allowing everything. Settle in between. Be Moderate Republican like myself.


What are your thoughts on Barry Goldwater?



Well before my time. You are also talking about a different era. From what I read, he was a VERY conservative guy.


“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”


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SomeGuy wrote:
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SomeGuy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Real Time has had multiple conservatives on several times. They don't want to do the show because their insane ideas will be ridiculed.



What constitutes on "insane idea" in your mind?



Not giving out marriage certificates because it is against your beliefs while being on hubby #3 or #4.


Anything else? I'm genuinely curious.

The current generation of conservatism has melded with religion and the outcome is a bundle of contradictions wrapped in a riddle. Hypocritical is the word to describe it.




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I don't agree with that at all. I mostly agree with you when it comes to Maher's politics, even started a thread about it here, but he's a funny motherfucker. That's why I still watch his show. He's not some gifted pundit or talk show host, IMO. But he's consistently funny, which is not something I can say for Jon Stewart.


I mostly agree with this take. Maher is alright, pretty even handed when he has guests on. Stewart treats his guests cordially if they agree with his stance, if he doesn't agree with them he has them on to brow beat and puff his chest.

Although Maher, in my opinion, has always had the same stance when it comes to Israel.


I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.


Show guest list from 2014

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SomeGuy wrote:
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I don't agree with that at all. I mostly agree with you when it comes to Maher's politics, even started a thread about it here, but he's a funny motherfucker. That's why I still watch his show. He's not some gifted pundit or talk show host, IMO. But he's consistently funny, which is not something I can say for Jon Stewart.


I mostly agree with this take. Maher is alright, pretty even handed when he has guests on. Stewart treats his guests cordially if they agree with his stance, if he doesn't agree with them he has them on to brow beat and puff his chest.

Although Maher, in my opinion, has always had the same stance when it comes to Israel.


I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.


Show guest list from 2014

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_R ... %282014%29


The very first show listed has Steve Schmidt(R) & Mary Matalin(R) political operatives! :P :lol:

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SomeGuy wrote:
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I don't agree with that at all. I mostly agree with you when it comes to Maher's politics, even started a thread about it here, but he's a funny motherfucker. That's why I still watch his show. He's not some gifted pundit or talk show host, IMO. But he's consistently funny, which is not something I can say for Jon Stewart.


I mostly agree with this take. Maher is alright, pretty even handed when he has guests on. Stewart treats his guests cordially if they agree with his stance, if he doesn't agree with them he has them on to brow beat and puff his chest.

Although Maher, in my opinion, has always had the same stance when it comes to Israel.


I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_R ... %282014%29


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The very first show listed has Steve Schmidt(R) & Mary Matalin(R) political operatives! :P :lol:


I just read the guys bio.

He's a Republican strategist for 20 years and according to Wiki has never worked in a campaign where his client actually...won an election. :lol:

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I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.


Show guest list from 2014

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_R ... %282014%29[/quote]

The very first show listed has Steve Schmidt(R) & Mary Matalin(R) political operatives! :P :lol:[/quote]

Mary Matalin AND Carville. They are a contrived floor show when they are together.

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I don't agree with that at all. I mostly agree with you when it comes to Maher's politics, even started a thread about it here, but he's a funny motherfucker. That's why I still watch his show. He's not some gifted pundit or talk show host, IMO. But he's consistently funny, which is not something I can say for Jon Stewart.


I mostly agree with this take. Maher is alright, pretty even handed when he has guests on. Stewart treats his guests cordially if they agree with his stance, if he doesn't agree with them he has them on to brow beat and puff his chest.

Although Maher, in my opinion, has always had the same stance when it comes to Israel.


I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.


Show guest list from 2014

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and?

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Real Time has had multiple conservatives on several times. They don't want to do the show because their insane ideas will be ridiculed.


This.

And I agree that the guest who joins the panel usually does nothing but slow down the show.


im pretty sure panelists get paid to be on the show, and the 1st and 4th guests actually pay to be there because they are plugging their shit. or at very least there is some backdoor deal to have the 1st and 4th guests on

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SomeGuy wrote:
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I don't agree with that at all. I mostly agree with you when it comes to Maher's politics, even started a thread about it here, but he's a funny motherfucker. That's why I still watch his show. He's not some gifted pundit or talk show host, IMO. But he's consistently funny, which is not something I can say for Jon Stewart.


I mostly agree with this take. Maher is alright, pretty even handed when he has guests on. Stewart treats his guests cordially if they agree with his stance, if he doesn't agree with them he has them on to brow beat and puff his chest.

Although Maher, in my opinion, has always had the same stance when it comes to Israel.


I don't agree that he is fair. He never has two conservatives on his panel and the one that is there is always treated like a kook unless they concede to the point he is trying to make.


Show guest list from 2014

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_R ... %282014%29


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and?


The list provides a back drop to your assertion. True or not, I have no idea.

I've only watched Maher twice and both times he had a single conservative "dope" he was interviewing.

And I agree on Matalin and Carville. Just a dog and pony show.

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The very first show listed has Steve Schmidt(R) & Mary Matalin(R) political operatives! :P :lol:


Mary Matalin AND Carville. They are a contrived floor show when they are together.


Floor/Dog & Pony show assertions aside, which I don't fully disagree with, Matalin & Schmidt are two of his favorites & he generally will let them thoroughly get their points across.

Btw, looking at the first 7-8 shows listed, at least four have two republican panelists. Now one of each pair may be a Log Cabin Republican or a "Libertarian", but each claims "conservative principles" fwiw :lol: :lol: :lol: .

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