FartsFan is having a bad night. Unlike Harper, who got on base many times.

Harper's team didn't win. Did he really have a good night?

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Ok, now I see where you got confused. Yeah, I never said it was wrong, and your second line of this quote is just dumb. Of course calling something a bitch move is an opinion.

Again, you don't need to make everything a competition, dude. You're going apeshit at every comment and talking about winning and losing normal conversations. You sound like Trump if he was a Cub fan. I've said countless times sincerely that the Cubs are a great team, and even gave them a shoutout thread. It's ok to rather see the best hitter in the game hit instead of walk. I would think it's a normal opinion. RPB probably would too. Regardless, I never talked about winning strategy and even made clear my post had nothing to do with it.

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Opinions are like ........ Everyone has one! Dark side is dead on!

Dusty didn't bat his best two hitters next to each other in the lineup and paid dearly for it. No reason to pitch to Harper with 2 outs if Zimmerman, who is terrible, bats right after him. Also, putting Rondon, remember when people thought he was a star, just before Harper almost guarantees 2 outs with an open base for Harper's AB.

Even the drunk weirdo Maddon knows how to take what's given to him (especially if they are under 18).

Apeshit? Really. You've got some weird opinions on what going apeshit means.
My opinion is that you've lost your mind. This is an opinion and isn't right or wrong.

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SOLID. There we go.

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Well, my opinion is, FF is out his damn fool mind.

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OK weird comment about under 18 aside America is right. Dusty allowed this to happen. He poorly managed his lineup.

This is classic dusty. He just wants to fill out a lineup and hey whatever happens happens. He seems to think the team should manage itself. That a pitching staff should just manage itself. He pulls starters after they're done getting shelled, but before they get into unrecoverable trouble.

Dusty is a shit manager.
I won't hide behind that being an opinion. Pretty sure that's the fact.

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They weren't shit--they won 88 or more three more times (I think) after 2005. They've tanked the past three years, though.

What killed their chances in 2006 was the relievers and two streaky starters. Vasquez and getting rid of Rowand didn't help, either. Too bad. Had a fast start but were out of first place for good by the beginning of June and blew their chance for the wild card. Memorable Cubs series, though.

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Obviously satire. I won't hide behind the word "opinion" to give myself cover.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

But here in this thread tonight... I'm not.

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Fair enough... I know they won a playoff for the central in 08. But no real success after 05.

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You sound ridiculous.

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What sounds ridiculous is when you cover your bad thoughts by claiming opinions can't be right or wrong.

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No cure for stupid.

It's a bad thought to prefer to see the best hitter in baseball hit than take four balls and a walk? That right there is a bad thought. I have no investment in either the Nationals or the Cubs. Don't care who wins. If I'm watching the game, it would be annoying to see Rizzo walk every time too. I'd rather see these guys hit. This really isn't a terribly difficult concept to understand.

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So as someone who isn't watching the game to see a win but just want to see people hit sure whatever. To you, fine. It'd be great to see him hit.
To the Cubs, the fans, management and people who know and understand baseball and want to see baseball played the right way, Maddon was right.
I guess I think Maddon probably is right more than you are when it comes to strategy. Silly, I know, but yeah I'm sure that's right.
But yeah I guess if you're just a meathead watching a game you don't give a fuck about sure it'd be nice to see someone throw him some batting practice balls.

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At least you are (very) slowly grasping what the remark was actually about.

Also, save the retarded "knows and understands baseball" shit. I think RPB knows as much about the game as anyone on this board and he shares my opinion.

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RPB blows collies. Save it.

Shouldn't you be busy making up some more bullshit background stories for ChicagoEd?

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Yeah the remark is understandable. It's like since I don't care about nascar, it'd sure be nice if they took off all the restrictor plates and let more guys crash into walls cause that's what I want to see is crashes and people blowing up!

Rpb didn't exactly share your opinion. Your opinion was bitch move. He said something a bit different.

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He said he doesn't like seeing the move but understands why it was made. I echo that sentiment 100%. The only difference of opinion RPB and I have on it is that when the Sox play the Nationals next month I don't even want to see my team doing it. Don't really care if it's the correct strategy or not. I hope the Sox let their pitchers go out and try to get him out.

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By the time your team plays them I hope to God dumbass puts some protection in there for Harper so it's a moot point.
And if you don't want your team to use the META then I don't understand your Fandom and question your understanding of the game.

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Question farvio...
If the packers were playing the bears, and the bears left tackle was injured and they had to put in a scrub who can't pass protect, wouldn't you want to see the defense blitz that side more? You wouldn't call it a bitch move to say run a cb blitz across that side and try to kill Cutler would you? I mean, is it better to let him air out some balls and see if they can beat him in the secondary?

Fuck that man. You take any advantage you can in sports. If you discover a weakness you exploit the shit out of it until it's corrected. You use the META every chance you can. The goal is to win the game. The goal is not to make a more entertaining game for a guy who isn't interested in either team.

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No

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I wouldn't call that a bitch move, but I also don't know that it's a great analogy. I get the comparison you're making, that they are attacking a specific player (The LT, the bum who hits after Harper) to gain an advantage, but it completely erases the best hitter in the game from hitting. So as a fan, of course that will suck. It would be like watching Golden State play and you only get to watch Steph Curry shoot free throws. I don't think your NFL situation would impact the game as much from a watchability standpoint. Obviously, none of this is relevant to whether it was a good decision or not.

Edit: I think you're getting hung up in the "bitch move" part and applying it to basically every side of this. That was me just complaining. Don't think of it as me saying "It was a bad strategical move by Joe Maddon.".

I get your point. But I don't agree that it's better in every single situation. I already said I wouldn't my team doing extreme hack a shaq for like an entire quarter even if it led to a win. I'd rather not see the best hitter in baseball walk every time if I am going to watch a game. I think it's silly to bring up some No True Sportsfan fallacy in this. It's not that serious.

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You being wrong is no fallacy.

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If you don't want to see the best hitter walk the manager should fucking protect him.
The walks to Harper were kind of like Joe laughing right at dusty.
Bonds drew over 200 walks for a couple years, right? Still got plenty of balls to hit though.

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I agree Dusty seems to be a dipshit.

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