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“The safety and quality of life of our community cannot be compromised by the pursuit of revenue. … It is not the responsibility of the community to help the Cubs owners generate revenue. And we won’t be bullied into meeting the demands of the Cubs organization by attacks on our process in the media.

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We have been operating in good faith over the past two years to give you and your partners every opportunity to work with us in finding solutions that would benefit both the Cubs and the community. After all of the entitlements given to the Cubs organization in recent years, it came as a surprise to read comments indicating your impatience with a process that has already greatly enhance your business,” the letter states.


I dont like Lakeview, I dont like the people who live in Lakview, but this is fucked... the Cubs are just bending them over backwards.


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Boo fucking hoo. OMG They'll be outside drinking till 11? We can't have that. Don't like it? Move to Scottsdale .

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Boo fucking hoo. OMG They'll be outside drinking till 11? We can't have that. Don't like it? Move to Scottsdale .
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Do you want 10,000 big 10 fratbros getting wasted in your neighborhood?


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The neighborhoods owe the success of their businesses and the value of their property to the Chicago Cubs organization.

Suck it up, bitch boys.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:49 pm 
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In other news, it's loud when you move close to an airport. You're house will flood if you live along rivers. And you'll probably get shot if you live on the South and West sides of the city.

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Do you want 10,000 big 10 fratbros getting wasted in your neighborhood?


Better than 10,000 berniebros.

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Do you want 10,000 big 10 fratbros getting wasted in your neighborhood?

So they won't be getting wasted at any one of the dozen different establishments that are already there ?

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You called? Image

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Do you want 10,000 big 10 fratbros getting wasted in your neighborhood?


Aren't they already doing that at the 20+ bars around the neighborhood? It's just the residents getting pissed that the bars (some probably owned by them) might lose business.

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In other news, it's loud when you move close to an airport. You're house will flood if you live along rivers. And you'll probably get shot if you live on the South and West sides of the city.
I agree. No one should ever be worried about anything that happens around the place they live.

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In other news, it's loud when you move close to an airport. You're house will flood if you live along rivers. And you'll probably get shot if you live on the South and West sides of the city.


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Oh, fuck the whiny neighbors. Right in the (man)pussy...

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Oh, fuck the whiny neighbors. Right in the (man)pussy...



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America wrote:
Do you want 10,000 big 10 fratbros getting wasted in your neighborhood?


The issue is not whether they are drinking or not.....they will be. It's whether they are drinking at Sports Corner, Sluggers, Cubby Bear, Murphy's and other establishments around the park, or in a beer garden owned and operated by the Cubs. Those other places are open past 11pm, whereas the Cubs intend to shut down their beer garden at 11pm. It's just about who makes the money, not whether or not people remain in the neighborhood drinking before and after games. If the bar owners want to stick it to the Cubs, just charge less for their beer. Plenty of fans will be happy to go where the beer is cheaper.

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In other news, it's loud when you move close to an airport. You're house will flood if you live along rivers. And you'll probably get shot if you live on the South and West sides of the city.
I agree. No one should ever be worried about anything that happens around the place they live.


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Rather than protecting the Clark/Sheffield corridor of bars that depend on Cubs and college football Tunney should focus on diversifying Wrigleyville.


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The difference here with the "You moved there and deal with it" is that when a lot of these people moved there Wrigley was just a baseball stadium and not a massive multipurpose complex that extends far beyond the walls of the stadium.

It would be like if you chose to buy a house within 1500 feet of a bar and then they bought the property around it and turned it into a much bigger and louder outdoor establishment. I can promise that no one here would say "Well, I chose to move by something and no matter how they change it or how much they add to it I should just STFU and take it".

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Kirkwood wrote:
Rather than protecting the Clark/Sheffield corridor of bars that depend on Cubs and college football Tunney should focus on diversifying Wrigleyville.


Are you saying there is a certain privilege of the owners there?

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The Cubs were there first.

As Bernstein says, don't like it? Then move.


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Rather than protecting the Clark/Sheffield corridor of bars that depend on Cubs and college football Tunney should focus on diversifying Wrigleyville.


I don't think assisting the Ricketts family in their pursuit to own all of it falls under "diversification".

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IMU wrote:
The neighborhoods owe the success of their businesses and the value of their property to the Chicago Cubs organization.

Suck it up, bitch boys.


No doubt. If the Cubs had chosen to take the free land in Rosemont and play out in the burbs, the majority of bars in the Wrigleyville area would close, as well as many restaurants and sports/ memorabilia stores.

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The difference here with the "You moved there and deal with it" is that when a lot of these people moved there Wrigley was just a baseball stadium and not a massive multipurpose complex that extends far beyond the walls of the stadium.

It would be like if you chose to buy a house within 1500 feet of a bar and then they bought the property around it and turned it into a much bigger and louder outdoor establishment. I can promise that no one here would say "Well, I chose to move by something and no matter how they change it or how much they add to it I should just STFU and take it".

But the bar would have every right to buy and expand, just as the Cubs do.

I can be upset about it, but the world does not revolve around me. If I do not like it enough then I am free to move.

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This shit again? I can't imagine why any of us that don't live there would give a fuck about this. It's really not that big a deal.

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The difference here with the "You moved there and deal with it" is that when a lot of these people moved there Wrigley was just a baseball stadium and not a massive multipurpose complex that extends far beyond the walls of the stadium.
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WAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! If I don't like it here anymore, I have to sell my house for 37 times what I paid for it and move to a more desirable, quiet, and probably less expensive area....WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

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This shit again? I can't imagine why any of us that don't live there would give a fuck about this. It's really not that big a deal.


What do you mean. Have to look out for the little guy and be ever vigilant.

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The difference here with the "You moved there and deal with it" is that when a lot of these people moved there Wrigley was just a baseball stadium and not a massive multipurpose complex that extends far beyond the walls of the stadium.

It would be like if you chose to buy a house within 1500 feet of a bar and then they bought the property around it and turned it into a much bigger and louder outdoor establishment. I can promise that no one here would say "Well, I chose to move by something and no matter how they change it or how much they add to it I should just STFU and take it".

But the bar would have every right to buy and expand, just as the Cubs do.

I can be upset about it, but the world does not revolve around me. If I do not like it enough then I am free to move.
The point is they are saying the Cubs don't have the right to buy and expand in this way. They may be wrong but it is wrong to get mad at them for sharing their objections. If one of those local owners decided to open up a strip club next to the kids play area the Cubs wouldn't say "the world does not revolve around the Cubs. If I do not like it then I am free to move".

It's just amazing how many people seem to have the default stance of "Cubs should be able to do whatever they want". Why not just have the city of Chicago take the whole neighborhood by force and then just hand it over to the Cubs then?

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This shit again? I can't imagine why any of us that don't live there would give a fuck about this. It's really not that big a deal.


What do you mean. Have to look out for the little guy and be ever vigilant.

Little guys that live in wrigleyville? They'll be fine.

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Rather than protecting the Clark/Sheffield corridor of bars that depend on Cubs and college football Tunney should focus on diversifying Wrigleyville.


I don't think assisting the Ricketts family in their pursuit to own all of it falls under "diversification".


The Ricketts family has done more in the past several years to improve that area than anyone by far. When the Ballpark,hotel and plaza are finished, it's going to be spectacular. They are improving streets, sidewalks, parks, lighting around the ballpark, security and general aesthetics. Since they own the ballpark and the team, I think they deserve to profit more than the bar owners who just want to profit from fans that come into the neighborhood to go to a game and did little or nothing, to bring them into the neighborhood themselves.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The difference here with the "You moved there and deal with it" is that when a lot of these people moved there Wrigley was just a baseball stadium and not a massive multipurpose complex that extends far beyond the walls of the stadium.

It would be like if you chose to buy a house within 1500 feet of a bar and then they bought the property around it and turned it into a much bigger and louder outdoor establishment. I can promise that no one here would say "Well, I chose to move by something and no matter how they change it or how much they add to it I should just STFU and take it".

But the bar would have every right to buy and expand, just as the Cubs do.

I can be upset about it, but the world does not revolve around me. If I do not like it enough then I am free to move.
The point is they are saying the Cubs don't have the right to buy and expand in this way. They may be wrong but it is wrong to get mad at them for sharing their objections. If one of those local owners decided to open up a strip club next to the kids play area the Cubs wouldn't say "the world does not revolve around the Cubs. If I do not like it then I am free to move".

It's just amazing how many people seem to have the default stance of "Cubs should be able to do whatever they want". Why not just have the city of Chicago take the whole neighborhood by force and then just hand it over to the Cubs then?


No one is saying the Cubs should be able to do whatever they want. it is not like they are doing anything illegal to expand. Property is for sale, they buy it and expand. They have every right to do that.

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