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I'm not sure why youre reluctant to click on the video. It's all laid out for you in there. I didn't photoshop the screencap I'm using as an avatar.

(a) I said I watched the video and could not find it. You made the statement; it's entirely on you to back it up.

(b) I never said either 'photoshop' or 'screencap' at any point.


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I'm not sure why youre reluctant to click on the video. It's all laid out for you in there. I didn't photoshop the screencap I'm using as an avatar.

(a) I said I watched the video and could not find it. You made the statement; it's entirely on you to back it up.

(b) I never said either 'photoshop' or 'screencap' at any point.


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care to let us know when you'll be retiring your stale-as-fuck gimmick ?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLZubB22edw

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Bats
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Candelaria had one good year. Ryan was top five in Cy Young 6 times. Stop being silly. Candelaria was pitching 190 innings when ryan was pitching 300 innings.



He had more than one good year. I'll grant you Ryan has a much larger body of work, but he was less effective. In the next argument you'll be telling me how important OBP is.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Bats
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8 game suspension for Odor

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Seems a little strong no?

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Candelaria had one good year. Ryan was top five in Cy Young 6 times. Stop being silly. Candelaria was pitching 190 innings when ryan was pitching 300 innings.


Bill James rated Ryan 24. I guess folks would have to post their list of 25 or so pitchers better than Ryan. I am not a baseball historian, but all in, it seems like 24th is about right. And agree that he was wildly inconsistent as pointed about by a few.

Most K's by a mile and lowest BA against.

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8 game suspension for Odor


Seems a little strong no?


Smells about right to me.

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Candelaria had one good year. Ryan was top five in Cy Young 6 times. Stop being silly. Candelaria was pitching 190 innings when ryan was pitching 300 innings.


Bill James rated Ryan 24. I guess folks would have to post their list of 25 or so pitchers better than Ryan. I am not a baseball historian, but all in, it seems like 24th is about right. And agree that he was wildly inconsistent as pointed about by a few.

Most K's by a mile and lowest BA against.


where was the candy man? 300?

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Bats
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I dunno, I just grabbed Ryan's rank from his Wikipedia page.


I am at a distinct disadvantage in these discussions because I have very little historical baseball knowledge. I pretty much watched from 1985 on, so I have to rely on stats and what experts say.

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Candelaria had one good year. Ryan was top five in Cy Young 6 times. Stop being silly. Candelaria was pitching 190 innings when ryan was pitching 300 innings.


Bill James rated Ryan 24. I guess folks would have to post their list of 25 or so pitchers better than Ryan. I am not a baseball historian, but all in, it seems like 24th is about right. And agree that he was wildly inconsistent as pointed about by a few.

Most K's by a mile and lowest BA against.


where was the candy man? 300?


Now who is being ridiculous? I can easily name 25 pitchers better than Ryan.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Bats
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8 game suspension for Odor


Seems a little strong no?


Michael Barrett got 10 iirc.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Bats
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they're trying to pussify the league. or maybe that's not PC. can I say neuter. neuter the league?

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Bats
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(a) I said I watched the video and could not find it. You made the statement; it's entirely on you to back it up.


I'm not sure how that could be if you really watched it. It's clear as day between :53 and :57.


Thank you for a direct answer finally. However, the version I posted earlier (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdyeWgsa_R8) must not match up to the one you're referring to, because around that time they're just milling about.

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(b) I never said either 'photoshop' or 'screencap' at any point.


I didn't say you did. I'm just pointing out that the picture shows Ventura choking that motherfucker senseless and it's straight from the video.



Well, I figure if one were to actually look at the picture, Ventura's arm is around his chest/left tit ... that's not choking someone by any rational definition.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Bats
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+2 Ventura reversal.

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Imagine what Kyle Farnsworth would have done to Ventura, considering Nolan whooped his ass.

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8 game suspension for Odor


Seems a little strong no?




I thought he deserved 10-12 games

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8 game suspension for Odor


Seems a little strong no?


I can't see more than four. Bautista slid in late & hard. Odor pushed him back (maybe to measure him up :lol: ), but an argument can be made that Bautista also raised a really puny left jab just before Odor came down main street with his hook. What's odd/funny is how many media types are starting to report that maybe Bautista isn't such a good guy anyway.

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Imagine what Kyle Farnsworth would have done to Ventura, considering Nolan whooped his ass.

:lol: Stop it ... I really am trying to figure out how JORR arrives at Ventura choking Ryan and have a decent discussion about it rather than troll (which, despite having every right to do, I do not do) ... as I already said it very well may have happened, I just haven't seen anything that clearly indicates that but, as he says there is some, I'm just wanting to see it is all.

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No other player got suspended :shock: I miss Bud :(

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No other player got suspended :shock: I miss Bud :(

I think Joey got 1 game.

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(a) I said I watched the video and could not find it. You made the statement; it's entirely on you to back it up.


I'm not sure how that could be if you really watched it. It's clear as day between :53 and :57.


Thank you for a direct answer finally. However, the version I posted earlier (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdyeWgsa_R8) must not match up to the one you're referring to, because around that time they're just milling about.



Here, this video slows it down and breaks it out: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4j4ujBQY8s

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Odor pulled the same shit in the minors, only he was the guy sliding and jumped up throwing punches..fuck this clown.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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(a) I said I watched the video and could not find it. You made the statement; it's entirely on you to back it up.


I'm not sure how that could be if you really watched it. It's clear as day between :53 and :57.


Thank you for a direct answer finally. However, the version I posted earlier (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdyeWgsa_R8) must not match up to the one you're referring to, because around that time they're just milling about.



Here, this video slows it down and breaks it out: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4j4ujBQY8s


Thank you for the link ... clearly not a choke at all, but it does show Ventura getting back at Ryan, which I didn't remember happening.

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Ventura +1 escape

Ventura wins match 3-2

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Ventura +1 escape

Ventura wins match 3-2


Both guys used illegal headlocks during the match.

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Odor pulled the same shit in the minors, only he was the guy sliding and jumped up throwing punches..fuck this clown.

Fuck Joey Bats the only thing this hot gag needs ui mustard....a 1 tool player

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Ventura +1 escape

Ventura wins match 3-2

I've always been impressed at how he managed to push Thunder Thighs himself back and back and back. Not an easy feat to get that man off balance.

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I don't have issue with his bat flip, but this guy has had to expect something to come his way. Regardless of Odor being a douche himself, he gets credit for making it count and connecting. That scrappy little shit can probably hold his own just fine.

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