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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 2:34 pm 
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We just flew with a toddler. It went pretty fast and they were quite efficient even though it seemed like I was treated like I was trying to smuggle things into jail.

"Are these your ice packs? Are they frozen? Ok good, we'd have to do more tests if they are frozen".

I also enjoyed the response of "I can tell that these bottles are empty".


Yeah, we had the same experience flying with my daughter back in October.

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I don't fly enough anymore to get too worried. I get more pissed at bag fees. Especially, since they went out of their way to urge you to check rather than carry on prior to the start of charging.

I never have less faith in the capabilities of the human race than when I have to disembark an airplane full of people retrieving their carry-on bags. All it takes is one guy not being able to stuff his bag in the overhead bin above his row because some trixie's bag is too big and the whole system comes crashing down like a house of cards and everyone is just standing up, unable to move for like ten or fifteen minutes. It's the worst.

Also, I have a 1:30 flight tomorrow out of Terminal 3. Should be a lovely day.


That's my one of my biggest WTF things. They still don't have any reasonable system to get people off the damn plan in a semi-orderly fashion. As you said we still have idiots trying to cram too-big bags into the overhead bin and fucking everything up or some clown who simply can't figure out a way to get his bag in less than 10 min...or you have the people who race to front from the back and screw people up.

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I don't fly enough anymore to get too worried. I get more pissed at bag fees. Especially, since they went out of their way to urge you to check rather than carry on prior to the start of charging.

I never have less faith in the capabilities of the human race than when I have to disembark an airplane full of people retrieving their carry-on bags. All it takes is one guy not being able to stuff his bag in the overhead bin above his row because some trixie's bag is too big and the whole system comes crashing down like a house of cards and everyone is just standing up, unable to move for like ten or fifteen minutes. It's the worst.

Also, I have a 1:30 flight tomorrow out of Terminal 3. Should be a lovely day.


Wow the disembark is one of the most painful processes on earth. I know they have had engineers work on loading and unloading planes more efficiently as so much time is wasted with these routine events. When the engineers got studying it, there realized there was no way to account for the stupidity and unpredictability of humans. They would try loading windows first and staggered parts of the planes. No matter how they did it, they were unable to materially cut the time to load the plane.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We just flew with a toddler. It went pretty fast and they were quite efficient even though it seemed like I was treated like I was trying to smuggle things into jail.

"Are these your ice packs? Are they frozen? Ok good, we'd have to do more tests if they are frozen".

I also enjoyed the response of "I can tell that these bottles are empty".


Yeah, we had the same experience flying with my daughter back in October.


Oh geeze. It's so random at times. I've been through the standard screener lines many times with box cutters, pocket knifes, screw drivers, nails and screws...all that stuff. On occasion they get you but for the most part the small stuff gets through.

The stuff they get super fixated on his funny. Ice packs and half empty bottles of water. Oh brother.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We just flew with a toddler. It went pretty fast and they were quite efficient even though it seemed like I was treated like I was trying to smuggle things into jail.

"Are these your ice packs? Are they frozen? Ok good, we'd have to do more tests if they are frozen".

I also enjoyed the response of "I can tell that these bottles are empty".


Yeah, we had the same experience flying with my daughter back in October.


Oh geeze. It's so random at times. I've been through the standard screener lines many times with box cutters, pocket knifes, screw drivers, nails and screws...all that stuff. On occasion they get you but for the most part the small stuff gets through.

The stuff they get super fixated on his funny. Ice packs and half empty bottles of water. Oh brother.
"Can't you put your stroller on the conveyor belt?".

"No, it's too big"

"Well, then we have to inspect it by hand"

"Ok"

"Take off the cupholder"

"Um ok"

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the stupid thing is they load the front of the plane before the back of the plane.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We just flew with a toddler. It went pretty fast and they were quite efficient even though it seemed like I was treated like I was trying to smuggle things into jail.

"Are these your ice packs? Are they frozen? Ok good, we'd have to do more tests if they are frozen".

I also enjoyed the response of "I can tell that these bottles are empty".


Yeah, we had the same experience flying with my daughter back in October.


Oh geeze. It's so random at times. I've been through the standard screener lines many times with box cutters, pocket knifes, screw drivers, nails and screws...all that stuff. On occasion they get you but for the most part the small stuff gets through.

The stuff they get super fixated on his funny. Ice packs and half empty bottles of water. Oh brother.
"Can't you put your stroller on the conveyor belt?".

"No, it's too big"

"Well, then we have to inspect it by hand"

"Ok"

"Take off the cupholder"

"Um ok"


:lol: I mean, I can appreciate, I guess, them wanting to be thorough but when I'm doing the Hammer Dance through security loaded up with knives, lighters and other weapons it can get a bit silly.


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"We have to inspect the milk. It will not damage it but you can throw it away afterwards"

"Ok"

The best part was the old lady behind me who also got caught in the "BAG CHECK!" sweep saying to me "You're slowing us all down".

Yeah lady, I was hoping to have a discussion about ice packs with a guy in rubber gloves today.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We just flew with a toddler. It went pretty fast and they were quite efficient even though it seemed like I was treated like I was trying to smuggle things into jail.

"Are these your ice packs? Are they frozen? Ok good, we'd have to do more tests if they are frozen".

I also enjoyed the response of "I can tell that these bottles are empty".


Yeah, we had the same experience flying with my daughter back in October.


Oh geeze. It's so random at times. I've been through the standard screener lines many times with box cutters, pocket knifes, screw drivers, nails and screws...all that stuff. On occasion they get you but for the most part the small stuff gets through.

The stuff they get super fixated on his funny. Ice packs and half empty bottles of water. Oh brother.
"Can't you put your stroller on the conveyor belt?".

"No, it's too big"

"Well, then we have to inspect it by hand"

"Ok"

"Take off the cupholder"

"Um ok"


First time we flew with her, my wife was told by the desk clown at American that we had to check the stroller because TSA wouldn't allow it through. Nothing like the joy of having to carry an extra 40 pounds of baby and car seat all the way through the damn airport (we were gate checking the car seat). Fucking baggage handlers broke something on the stroller, too...

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they have a thing called a "travel stroller." It folds up and weighs like 5 pounds.

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the stupid thing is they load the front of the plane before the back of the plane.

Let me piggyback on that: the stupidest thing is that JetBlue figured out that loading the plane back-to-front greatly speeds up the process, but then by selling priority boarding to people in the front, they load front-to-back-to-less-front, which nullifies any benefits of back-to-front loading! At that point, you might as well let the big shooters get on, then the vets (thank you for your service), and then tell everyone else to just have at it.

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they have a thing called a "travel stroller." It folds up and weighs like 5 pounds.


Great when the kids are bigger...not very useful for a 6 month old.

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they have a thing called a "travel stroller." It folds up and weighs like 5 pounds.
Even though I wrongly called him a toddler before he is too young to use one of those and we still needed the car seat.

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they have a thing called a "travel stroller." It folds up and weighs like 5 pounds.


Great when the kids are bigger...not very useful for a 6 month old.


worked for us. maybe they're illegal now.

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"We have to inspect the milk. It will not damage it but you can throw it away afterwards"

"Ok"

The best part was the old lady behind me who also got caught in the "BAG CHECK!" sweep saying to me "You're slowing us all down".

Yeah lady, I was hoping to have a discussion about ice packs with a guy in rubber gloves today.


:lol: I imagine you could get that discussion to 6 pages. :wink:

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a guy who used to work here worked for a company contracted to try and sneak shit through TSA. he said without trying they were successful more times than not. he would travel all around. he said the busier the airport, the less TSA cared.


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My wife seems to always bring something that sets off the bells. A couple times it was a corkscrew. Last time it was a jar of cheese spread.

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My wife seems to always bring something that sets off the bells. A couple times it was a corkscrew. Last time it was a jar of cheese spread.

Last time it was my butt.

No, seriously, they had to wave a wand over my ass for tripping the x-ray scanner. I don't know what they found, but one nut-cupping and ass-scanning later, they let me go.

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"We have to inspect the milk. It will not damage it but you can throw it away afterwards"

"Ok"

The best part was the old lady behind me who also got caught in the "BAG CHECK!" sweep saying to me "You're slowing us all down".

Yeah lady, I was hoping to have a discussion about ice packs with a guy in rubber gloves today.


:lol: I imagine you could get that discussion to 6 pages. :wink:
You don't argue with TSA under any circumstance. In that 20 foot area they are god.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
"We have to inspect the milk. It will not damage it but you can throw it away afterwards"

"Ok"

The best part was the old lady behind me who also got caught in the "BAG CHECK!" sweep saying to me "You're slowing us all down".

Yeah lady, I was hoping to have a discussion about ice packs with a guy in rubber gloves today.


:lol: I imagine you could get that discussion to 6 pages. :wink:
You don't argue with TSA under any circumstance. In that 20 foot area they are god.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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My wife seems to always bring something that sets off the bells. A couple times it was a corkscrew. Last time it was a jar of cheese spread.

Last time it was my butt.

No, seriously, they had to wave a wand over my ass for tripping the x-ray scanner. I don't know what they found, but one nut-cupping and ass-scanning later, they let me go.


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This thread is kind of dull without Feelz weighing in on the security processes in places like Djibouti or Vanuatu.

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This thread is kind of dull without Feelz weighing in on the security processes in places like Djibouti or Vanuatu.


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Security is very lax in Vanuatu. It's really easy to just walk up to the gate. I love the local delicacies, though. My favorite is the grasshopper and dung beetle pad thai at the Bangkok airport. Wash that down with a few mekhongs, and you're in for a great trip.

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This thread is kind of dull without Feelz weighing in on the security processes in places like Djibouti or Vanuatu.

Last summer in Warsaw it was pretty efficient. I was surprised given everyone working is obviously Polish. I had very low expectations since I assume the leftovers were handling things over there since the cream of the crop (relatively speaking) immigrated to the UK/US.


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This thread is kind of dull without Feelz weighing in on the security processes in places like Djibouti or Vanuatu.

Last summer in Warsaw it was pretty efficient. I was surprised given everyone working is obviously Polish. I had very low expectations since I assume the leftovers were handling things over there since the cream of the crop (relatively speaking) immigrated to the UK/US.


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This thread is kind of dull without Feelz weighing in on the security processes in places like Djibouti or Vanuatu.

Last summer in Warsaw it was pretty efficient. I was surprised given everyone working is obviously Polish. I had very low expectations since I assume the leftovers were handling things over there since the cream of the crop (relatively speaking) immigrated to the UK/US.


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the stupid thing is they load the front of the plane before the back of the plane.


It makes no sense.

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the stupid thing is they load the front of the plane before the back of the plane.


It makes no sense.


it only makes sense because people are SO FUCKING EAGER to be on the plane first. and the ones that want to be on first the most are the ones who paid the most. its like an entitlement thing

then, once theyre on the plane, they complain the plane doesnt take off fast enough. they complain people cant get their luggage in quick enough. WELL, STAY OFF THE FUCKIN PLANE UNTIL THE PEOPLE SITTING BEHIND YOU ARE BOARDED DUMBASS

why on earth ANYONE would want to be on the plane first I just don't understand. I always try to be the very last one on. I also never use the overhead compartment. those should be for diaper bags only. if you cant fit what you have on you under the seat then just shoot yourself and die.

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I was a TSA screener, part of the National Deployment Force. Today it was announced that 85 screeners from the NDF will be going to work at O'Hare.
It's the govt so they will all stay in nice hotels in single rooms and will all get nice tax free per diems.
I once worked 3 months at KOA (Kona on the Big Island). Had a good hotel room and got $95 a day per diem (7days a week) to 'help' me pay for the meals I put together from grocery shopping.
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Privatize. Biggest problem when I worked any big city airport was lazy ass workers. BWI and JFK were the worst.
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