Doesn't matter if the percentages are diluted, just who is carrying the states. If Sanders and Clinton ran, Trump would likely win. If it was Sanders, Clinton, Trump and Cruz then likely Clinton. Only way it would work for the House is if Sanders took a bunch of states to keep Clinton from 270 while Trump also fell short.



Would need to form coalition governments if it was not two party. Seems like it works in Europe.

How exactly do you determine six months before the president is even decided that she will be an "average to above average president, just like Obama"? Wouldn't that be based almost entirely of one's own ideology and values? Not all people's ideology falls in line with the Republocrats. In fact, most people's doesn't. They are just told that there is no other option.

https://newrepublic.com/article/129433/clintons-war-drugs-black-lives-didnt-matter

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That would not happen.

You can't form a coalition if no one gets to 270. The House would decide every election.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

https://newrepublic.com/article/129433/clintons-war-drugs-black-lives-didnt-matter

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

That turns him into an enemy though of pretty much everyone but his die hard supporters. He will literally be blamed for Trump being the President.

I post this as someone not supporting anyone. That is where I am at right now. But you are so sure in all of your posts about this. Yet Trump somehow proves everyone wrong at every turn. I watched his Fox interview last night. That is not a guy that thinks he will lose, wants to lose or is not going to pull anything to win.

but you said he thinks the best course of action is for Trump to be elected president. You're confusing the heck out of me.

I envision her being a virtual continuation of Obama. He was at a minimum an average President. Do you disagree?

It isnt confusing at all. Bricks analyses here is exactly what I was thinking when I asked the question if Bernie will ask his supporters to vote for Hills. Bernies followers will not just blindly flip to Hillary.

but you said he thinks the best course of action is for Trump to be elected president. You're confusing the heck out of me.

He was one of the best we ever had

Screwed up on syria... Bailed out banks but one could argue there wasnt any other option... Obamacare is lackluster but its better than what we had.

Then there are tons of great things hes done, like restoring international relationships and fighting isis

Trump may be Idiocracy in real-life, but take away the yelling and blunt words....he's still the only candidate addressing the huge economic problem that is US Trade policy. Billy, George W, Barry, Hillary....all have thrown gas on that fire.

If he runs as a third party he would be viewed as the guy who handed Trump the White House and that would supercede any other thing he would be known for.

I'm starting to think that Sanders true end goal is the fracture of the Democratic Party. If you really think about it, his whole campaign has been an attack on the Democratic Party and he seems to be doubling down on those attacks. I'm starting to believe that his "political revolution" is about getting young people to leave the Democratic Party down the line and become Socialists(I know, he was only a Socialist for half his life. He's now a Democratic Socialist).

Quite honestly, he may think the best course of action to get that done is for Donald Trump to be elected President. Hillary is going to be an average to above average President like Obama, and most people are going to go about the next 8 years doing just fine with some highs and some lows, and then we'll remember Bernie like we do Rand Paul and other ideologues that don't really do much besides stir a discussion. However, if Trump gets elected, and he is the disaster he probably would be(until he gets impeached) you might get young people so fired up that they keep up the good fight for the ideas of Bernie past the election. It would be like a more extreme version of the emotional fights against Bush that galvanized a lot of people who suddenly got very silent when Obama basically did the same things in different ways.

So, it's an interesting choice for Bernie. The only way to have a lasting impact is to destroy Hillary Clinton. You can't be the "political revolution" guy and then at the end say "Yeah, the person I used as the example of why we need a political revolution is cool and you should vote for her" and stay relevant.

Bernie now has a national platform and following, even if he drops out of the race tomorrow.

I think the next few years are going to show who is right regarding his principles or political expediency. If he becomes an outspoken critic of what some here refer to as center-right Democratic stances and holds Hillary's feet to the fire if she becomes President, then it's clear that his supporters like leash were correct. If he goes quietly into that good night, it's pretty clear Nas is correct. I'm not sure there's a middle ground here.

I really don't know what Bernie is truly lobbying for, but the longer he runs...the more he exposes the DEMs for being no different than the Republicans. The 2-party system is the root of all evil and I support any candidate that brings that down.

Trump may be Idiocracy in real-life, but take away the yelling and blunt words....he's still the only candidate addressing the huge economic problem that is US Trade policy. Billy, George W, Barry, Hillary....all have thrown gas on that fire.

If he runs as a third party he would be viewed as the guy who handed Trump the White House and that would supercede any other thing he would be known for.

By not actually addressing it? Sanders has at least a basic outline of a plan.

I still can't believe that Trump's stated plan to cut down the national debt involves paying $0.80 on the dollar...like they do in the business world (if I may paraphrase). Full Faith & Credit (to debtors/investors) means nothing to the man.

so he doesn't think the best course of action is for Trump to be elected president. Got it.

They mean nothing to him because he he doesn't believe in it. He's been a scam artist fraudster his entire career. All the debt roll overs, the false bravado on his false wealth claims, his constant lashing out and multiple failed business centre and bankruptcies.

He's a paper billionaire in every sense of the word, the stereotypes about him are all true.

At least it's entertaining.

These conventions are going to be awesome.

If he runs as a third party he would be viewed as the guy who handed Trump the White House and that would supercede any other thing he would be known for.

I can't believe more people don't see this, SomeGuy. Trump will flip flop on any position depending on who he is speaking to. And the people love it and don't give a shit. Obama didn't have enough experience according to his critics but they have no problem supporting a reality show host. And they are going to be even more disappointed when he gets elected and forgets about trying half the shit he talks about. The "Wall" being the first thing.

that's a) true and b) irrelevant because not enough will vote Trump. Only the FBI can stop Hillary, and even then she still gets elected because right wing conspiracy. Which is true so I'm not making that argument.

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People keep saying this stuff. But didn't Trump get more votes in the GOP primary than any other candidate in history? And he did it with more people in the race than there normally are.

I wouldn't think so, he's at 41% of the R vote and the last two R nominees got 52% Romney and 47% McCain.

With his win tonight in the State of Oregon along with previous victories throughout the country, Donald J. Trump broke George W. Bush’s record with the most votes won by any Republican Primary Candidate in party history.

George W. Bush won 10.8 million votes in the 2000 Republican primary. Donald Trump has won 11.1 million votes so far this year.

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I envision her being a virtual continuation of Obama. He was at a minimum an average President. Do you disagree?

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

Unless the republicans find a way to steal Florida, which I'm sure they can, Trump will lose, because he will get destroyed in the Latino voting bloc. They made up 8% in '04, 9% in '08, and 10% in '12. You can see where this is headed.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/l ... -election/

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