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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:56 am 
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game 5 win at home is certainly doable
then, there will be pressure on OKC to close it out at home to avoid a game 7 back in GS


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Both Hussra and LTG are missing the fact that Curry has knee problems this postseason. LTG, him missing games this postseason doesn't support the contention that he's therefore rested, it suggests that he's obviously not 100%. If they lose I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of those times where a team leaks stories indicating that an injury to a player was more severe than reported.

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Both Hussra and LTG are missing the fact that Curry has knee problems this postseason. LTG, him missing games this postseason doesn't support the contention that he's therefore rested, it suggests that he's obviously not 100%. If they lose I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of those times where a team leaks stories indicating that an injury to a player was more severe than reported.


he did state prior to the OKC series beginning that the time off between series didn't help his condition....that while it didn't get any worse, the rest didn't improve it either

there were 2 easy layups that he completely blew last night where i thought to myself there has to be something wrong, that's just nuts


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Given what happened last year, with GS benefiting greatly from injuries, I don't really see the point in using them as an excuse this year.

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Given what happened last year, with GS benefiting greatly from injuries, I don't really see the point in using them as an excuse this year.


me either

they just need a nap/Neflix n chill/lolz


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Both Hussra and LTG are missing the fact that Curry has knee problems this postseason. LTG, him missing games this postseason doesn't support the contention that he's therefore rested, it suggests that he's obviously not 100%. If they lose I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of those times where a team leaks stories indicating that an injury to a player was more severe than reported.


I think he is hurt but I don't think it is affecting his play as much as having to guard Westbrook. Prior to this season he'd never guarded Westbrook. Also, Curry has had explosive games post injury. Against Portland he went off a few times and he also went off in game two. He is moving around fairly well in my opinion but he has to guard which they never want him to do. I think they will switch him over to Robertson next game. If that happens expect him to play much better.

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Both Hussra and LTG are missing the fact that Curry has knee problems this postseason. LTG, him missing games this postseason doesn't support the contention that he's therefore rested, it suggests that he's obviously not 100%. If they lose I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of those times where a team leaks stories indicating that an injury to a player was more severe than reported.


I think he is hurt but I don't think it is affecting his play as much as having to guard Westbrook. Prior to this season he'd never guarded Westbrook. Also, Curry has had explosive games post injury. Against Portland he went off a few times and he also went off in game two. He is moving around fairly well in my opinion but he has to guard which they never want him to do. I think they will switch him over to Robertson next game. If that happens expect him to play much better.


speaking of matchup adjustments, i think Kerr needs to take more blame here as well
he left Ezeli in far too long as he was clanking free throw after free throw being intentionally fouled
i get that they needed a presence inside but they were only down about 10 at that point and all those missed free throws really cost them (yes i realize Curry missed several as well)
why doesn't he make any kind of adjustments or come up with a different game plan


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If Curry were the only Warrior looking gassed and out of sorts and the Warriors were the only team to expend extra energy in the regular season trying to set win records while OKC netflix'd and chilled and then get beaten like a ginger-step child in the post-season by the latter team... Occam's Taser and all that.

oh, and if the Warriors coach himself didn't try to get his guys to take it easy instead of go for the win record...

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Sometimes the simplest explanation is the most correct.


Exactly. GS is getting their ass kicked and it is about matchups, not about fatigue.

With that said, this series is not over. Would not surprise me at all to see this one still go 7 games.

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Exactly. GS is getting their ass kicked and it is about matchups, not about fatigue.

With that said, this series is not over. Would not surprise me at all to see this one still go 7 games.


yea i don't get why Hussra has such a hard on for the fatigue excuse


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Haven't watched a lot of this but one thing ill say is Westbrook is what Derrick Rose would be if he were good. Fucker is a baller .

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How is Curry clanking wide-open 3's, missing layups and even duffing FT's a "match up" issue.

Golden State in its current incarnation had "match up" issues with every team they faced. Their insane offensive prowess had a way of overcoming what on paper were poor matchups for them.


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I want to get on Hussras fatigue train because he makes a compelling argument but Curry's injury has to be it right?


They'll probably still win. Baygs laid it out in his post. They win Game 5, they probably win the series, imo


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Haven't watched a lot of this but one thing ill say is Westbrook is what Derrick Rose would be if he were good. Fucker is a baller .

Nobody in the league would've done it back then, but in hindsight, the Bulls should've picked Westbrook.


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Hussra wrote:
How is Curry clanking wide-open 3's, missing layups and even duffing FT's a "match up" issue.

Golden State in its current incarnation had "match up" issues with every team they faced. Their insane offensive prowess had a way of overcoming what on paper were poor matchups for them.


again, i think it is the injury. yea playing 4 minutes less in a game vs. Utah in December would have made him make that layup

and per Brick, i'm not using that as an excuse for the team losing. They have enough talent that they should be able to overcome a poor offensive performance from Curry...although it didn't help that Klay got in early foul trouble . I'm using it as an explanation for Curry's poor play specifically


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Not only will the Thunder win the series, they will only lose one game.


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Not only will the Thunder win the series, they will only lose one game.


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Any true fan of NBA basketball saw this coming a mile away.

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Any true fan of NBA basketball saw this coming a mile away.
Yup.

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
Any true fan of NBA basketball saw this coming a mile away.

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Hussra wrote:
How is Curry clanking wide-open 3's, missing layups and even duffing FT's a "match up" issue.

Golden State in its current incarnation had "match up" issues with every team they faced. Their insane offensive prowess had a way of overcoming what on paper were poor matchups for them.


I agree that Curry is tired. We differ on the reason that he is tired. I don't think winning 73 games is the reason that he is tired. I think having to check a guy that is probably the most athletic point guard to ever play the position is the more likely reason. Tired legs lead to missed jump shots.

In addition is the fact that the NBA has become better at defending Golden States offense. One the reason that they struggled towards the end of the season was because teams began to defense them differently. Teams began switching the ball screens and the high pick and rolls. You see that in this series also.

Golden State's defense has sagged as the season progressed. Portland put up a lot of points against them. Portland only has two guys that are considered good offensive players and neither is in Westbrook or Durant's class.

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Any true fan of NBA basketball saw this coming a mile away.


Agreed, I had it as well.

I don't think FavreFan even watches the NBA.

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The rest of the series will go like tonight's game has. Game 1 was clearly a fluke, just like the Spurs game 1 win last round, unfortunately.



:lol: :lol:


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The rest of the series will go like tonight's game has. Game 1 was clearly a fluke, just like the Spurs game 1 win last round, unfortunately.



:lol: :lol:


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Curry's multiple injury issues--sore ankle, sore shoulder/elbow?, strained knee, etc are another product of the insane season he and the Warriors had.

Curry shot 240 more 3's this season than in any of his recent seasons---and he led the league in 3 attempts
all 4 seasons. Shooting 10+ 3's a game + practice. And Curry was often shooting from 25 foot+.

Go out and shoot ten 25 footers in a row without anyone from the NBA guarding you. [please consult your physician before attempting. Half the board would prolly end up in the ER with sprains trying to shoot 10 25 footers in a row. Some of us might even go Pasta trying it ]

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Maybe Curry could've saved a couple hundred 3's for the playoffs-- Warriors still make the playoffs and likely still have home court throughout. And Curry's not nursing sore everything.




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I want to get on Hussras fatigue train because he makes a compelling argument but Curry's injury has to be it right?


They'll probably still win. Baygs laid it out in his post. They win Game 5, they probably win the series, imo


I think they can get up for a game 5 at home and win. Hard to see them taking 3 in a row vs a less tired OKC team [absent the NBA/refs putting their whistle on the scale]. But if they do:

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Hussra wrote:
Curry's multiple injury issues--sore ankle, sore shoulder/elbow?, strained knee, etc are another product of the insane season he and the Warriors had.

Curry shot 240 more 3's this season than in any of his recent seasons---and he led the league in 3 attempts
all 4 seasons. Shooting 10+ 3's a game + practice. And Curry was often shooting from 25 foot+.

Go out and shoot ten 25 footers in a row without anyone from the NBA guarding you. [please consult your physician before attempting. Half the board would prolly end up in the ER with sprains trying to shoot 10 25 footers in a row. Some of us might even go Pasta trying it ]

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Maybe Curry could've saved a couple hundred 3's for the playoffs-- Warriors still make the playoffs and likely still have home court throughout. And Curry's not nursing sore everything.


I still think this is a series. It goes at least 6 and OKC cannot lose at home or else they are done.




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I want to get on Hussras fatigue train because he makes a compelling argument but Curry's injury has to be it right?


They'll probably still win. Baygs laid it out in his post. They win Game 5, they probably win the series, imo


I think they can get up for a game 5 at home and win. Hard to see them taking 3 in a row vs a less tired OKC team [absent the NBA/refs putting their whistle on the scale]. But if they do:

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fun read comparing Curry's 402/886 on 3's in 2015-2016 to various TEAM totals as well as CAREER totals for the likes of Bird and Jordan.

Klay Thomspon went 276/650 on 3's this season. 100+ more attempts for Klay than any previous season.

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http://www.sbnation.com/2016/4/15/11437 ... int-record

who the heck is "McLOUD 95-96?"


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So McCloud held the record for 3 attempts til this season:

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