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 Post subject: Bernie Trump Debate?
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 12:03 pm 
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How is this a thing: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/t ... ate-223594

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Bernie seems to be a strange guy.

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I bet they hug it out at the end! :D

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Bernie is going to mop the floor with this boob.

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Bernie seems to be A strange guy.


Whereas Trump is perfectly normal.

Check your privilege, 1% Brick.

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You forgot to put the real Charlatan in there, the "New Yorker" who isn't even from New York. :lol:

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You forgot to put the real Charlatan in there, the "New Yorker" who isn't even from New York. :lol:
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This will be the dumbest and most ill informed debate of all time.

It's gonna be yuuuuuuuge.
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This will be the dumbest and most ill informed debate of all time.

It's gonna be yuuuuuuuge.


Trump will change positions on the fly and talk about how great he is and mix in a few insults. Bernie will do a lot of yelling but won't be able to say anything beyond his memorized talking points.

Advantage Trump

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Doesn't matter. The "win" is not having Hillary participate. Helps to marginalize her, which actually helps both Bern & Trump.

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Doesn't matter. The "win" is not having Hillary participate. Helps to marginalize her, which actually helps both Bern & Trump.


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this whole bernie thing is a waste of time in my opinion... he can cry about superdelegates all he wants... but the bottom line is he's by estimates 2-3 million behind hillary in the overall popular vote thus far through the primaries.

the only way he gets the nomination is if hiliary's email scandal goes nuclear with some type of charge/arrest
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this whole bernie thing is a waste of time in my opinion... he can cry about superdelegates all he wants... but the bottom line is he's by estimates 2-3 million behind hillary in the overall popular vote thus far through the primaries.

the only way he gets the nomination is if hiliary's email scandal goes nuclear with some type of charge/arrest


He just lost the Washington primary by a large margin after winning the caucus by 50 points 2 months ago. Double the voters showed up for the primary too. Caucuses and the way pledged delegates are allocated kept him in the race.

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It would be refreshing to see Bernie debate someone whose rebuttal isn't always just accusations of sexism.

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The Caucus system is far more undemocratic than the super delegate system yet Sanders has been noticeably silent on it. If Sanders were 3 million votes ahead, then his super delegate argument would be legit.

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The Caucas system is far more undemocratic than the super delegate system yet Sanders has been noticeably silent on it. If Sanders were 3 million votes ahead, then his super delegate argument would be legit.


Why do you hate the father of all Caucasians?

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long time guy wrote:
The Caucas system is far more undemocratic than the super delegate system yet Sanders has been noticeably silent on it. If Sanders were 3 million votes ahead, then his super delegate argument would be legit.


Why do you hate the father of all Caucasians?
Not true. I'm not at all bothered by Elmhurst Steve.

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Who hate women more Bernie or Trump?

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Who hate women more Bernie or Trump?


"Hillary I love women, almost as much as you do!"

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Nas wrote:
Who hate women more Bernie or Trump?


"Hillary I love women, almost as much as you do!"

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Trump would definitely say that

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The Caucus system is far more undemocratic than the super delegate system yet Sanders has been noticeably silent on it. If Sanders were 3 million votes ahead, then his super delegate argument would be legit.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the ... t-sanders/

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this whole bernie thing is a waste of time in my opinion... he can cry about superdelegates all he wants... but the bottom line is he's by estimates 2-3 million behind hillary in the overall popular vote thus far through the primaries.

the only way he gets the nomination is if hiliary's email scandal goes nuclear with some type of charge/arrest






OK.... Very simplistic view,



50% of voters are Independent

Many states make it damn near impossible to vote on voting day if you aren't registered Dem or Rep MONTHS in advance...its voter suppression... If people voted from their phones .Hillary would be buried months ago.

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It would be refreshing to see Bernie debate someone whose rebuttal isn't always just accusations of sexism.


Identity politics.

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billypootons wrote:
this whole bernie thing is a waste of time in my opinion... he can cry about superdelegates all he wants... but the bottom line is he's by estimates 2-3 million behind hillary in the overall popular vote thus far through the primaries.

the only way he gets the nomination is if hiliary's email scandal goes nuclear with some type of charge/arrest






OK.... Very simplistic view,



50% of voters are Independent

Many states make it damn near impossible to vote on voting day if you aren't registered Dem or Rep MONTHS in advance...its voter suppression... If people voted from their phones .Hillary would be buried months ago.


More voters voted this year. Bernie didn't lose many states that had closed primaries. Even if you gave him a 5% bump in each state with a closed primary he is still WAY behind. If you eliminate caucuses he would be even further behind.

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http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/only-vot ... 80128.html

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Why should independent voters be allowed to vote in democratic or republican primaries? Shouldn't there be an independent candidate for them to vote for? Why should they be allowed to influence primaries if they have no affiliation to said political party?

That is but one other thing that Sanders and his supporters have been wrong about this season.

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Why should independent voters be allowed to vote in democratic or republican primaries? Shouldn't there be an independent candidate for them to vote for? Why should they be allowed to influence primaries if they have no affiliation to said political party?

That is but one other thing that Sanders and his supporters have been wrong about this season.







Is that a serious question?

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long time guy wrote:
Why should independent voters be allowed to vote in democratic or republican primaries? Shouldn't there be an independent candidate for them to vote for? Why should they be allowed to influence primaries if they have no affiliation to said political party?

That is but one other thing that Sanders and his supporters have been wrong about this season.







Is that a serious question?
yes

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long time guy wrote:
Why should independent voters be allowed to vote in democratic or republican primaries? Shouldn't there be an independent candidate for them to vote for? Why should they be allowed to influence primaries if they have no affiliation to said political party?

That is but one other thing that Sanders and his supporters have been wrong about this season.

Why should there be primaries at all? Why not have the political party run whoever they feel like should run?

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