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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:52 am 
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This will be fun.

If the Cubs win it all, I can celebrate with my friends Dr. K and rpb.
If the Cubs choke it all away, I can celebrate with my friends America and Frank.

Being a neutral observer has its perks.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
IMU making a strong case that not winning the World Series this year would be the biggest choke job in sports history.


That's Rick's way of trying to add some pressure to the Cubs, but ultimately saying "Yes" to the topic question.

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Layze23 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
IMU making a strong case that not winning the World Series this year would be the biggest choke job in sports history.


That's Rick's way of trying to add some pressure to the Cubs, but ultimately saying "Yes" to the topic question.
I highly doubt they are the best pitching staff in the past 50 years.

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you're talking about Cubs right, not all teams. :lol:

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I highly doubt they are the best pitching staff in the past 50 years.
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Juiced...I'm willing to say 100 years if you have the numbers ready.


Get back to me in October. It's too early to debate these stats. Like saying Latos is going to win the Cy-Young in May.
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Layze23 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
IMU making a strong case that not winning the World Series this year would be the biggest choke job in sports history.


That's Rick's way of trying to add some pressure to the Cubs, but ultimately saying "Yes" to the topic question.
I highly doubt they are the best pitching staff in the past 50 years.

Check the statistics.

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Juiced wrote:
Like saying Latos is going to win the Cy-Young in May.
Who said this here? Provide the link to the actual post.

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IMU wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Layze23 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
IMU making a strong case that not winning the World Series this year would be the biggest choke job in sports history.


That's Rick's way of trying to add some pressure to the Cubs, but ultimately saying "Yes" to the topic question.
I highly doubt they are the best pitching staff in the past 50 years.

Check the statistics.
I don't know how to get statistics like that through the start of June for the past 50 years.

So, who is second place?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
So, who is second place?
2015 Cubs who were better than the Cardinals.

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Through June? ERA?

The 2015 Cardinals.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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YES or NO? There is no middle ground here.
IMU is making the case over multiple threads that the 2016 Cubs are one of the greatest teams of all time. I simply want to know if rpb agrees or not.

So, you can slow it down with that "YES OR NO" cop out. The fact that he completely evaded any answer isn't a reflection on me.



I disagree with IMU.

I think they are the greatest team of all time.

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This season's start has (barring an epic collapse or a multitude of injuries) at least assured us of being in play for a post-season birth whether that be division or wild card.

I'll take that and not look back.
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Errybody under 3 ERA.
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They are 14th out of 15 teams in the NL in innings pitched, they suck.
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They are 14th out of 15 teams in the NL in innings pitched, they suck.

:lol:

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The joys of pitching in the NL.
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The joys of pitching in the NL.


:lol:

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Runs per game is 0.11 different between AL and NL.

Where is JORR to talk about fractions of a run? Noticeable silence?

Cubs are 0.73 ERA better than the next best NL team, and 1.06 better than the top AL team.

Try harder.

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Not as good as the Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz and Millwood. Nor probably as good as the Phillies with Halladay, Hammels, Lee and Oswalt. But if it's the best going today or not is all that really matters.

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Not as good as the Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz and Millwood. Nor probably as good as the Phillies with Halladay, Hammels, Lee and Oswalt. But if it's the best going today or not is all that really matters.

Statistics, when weighted against runs scored during respective seasons, say the Cubs are better.

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I just want to throw in:

Jenkins
Hands
Holtzman
Pappas


BUT this 5 is really something special so far.

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IMU wrote:
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Not as good as the Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz and Millwood. Nor probably as good as the Phillies with Halladay, Hammels, Lee and Oswalt. But if it's the best going today or not is all that really matters.

Statistics, when weighted against runs scored during respective seasons, say the Cubs are better.


Figures lie and liars figure. If you have watched the 3 pitching staffs, you can judge them fairly and there is no doubt in my mind (as much as I wish the Cubs had the best pitching staff of all time) that the Braves and Phillies rotations were better. That is not a knock on the Cubs rotation. They have been great. Just not the best I have seen.

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At least this epic thread is mostly up to date.

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Lowest starting staff ERA in all of baseball since the mound was lowered in 1969.

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The Chicago Cubs are putting together the most dominant season in MLB history.

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/chic ... als-060716

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A week later and we're done even questioning this.

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Heard Kap say something yesterday like - the cubs starters have given up xxx (significant) number of runs fewer than the Reds bullpen this year..with like 3x the amount of innings.

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Hey, you both figured out how ERAs work. Congrats!

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