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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:41 pm 
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I don't understand the "parents were emotional" defense Juice is trying to run here. If you are really emotional, any inappropriate comments you are likely to make in a letter like that would be highly emotional and possibly offensive in how volatile they are. This isn't that. The dad is as indifferent to the sexual assault as one person can possibly be, and expressing that in clear words here. That's not a "mistake" or an "error in judgment" due to high emotional stress. It's pretty clear that's just how he views what happened.

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Yeah... like that shit that Patrick Kanes accusers mom pulled. That totally tanked her case.



Well, I suspect that was just a criminal family taking a shot at a big pro athlete.

In this case, I understand the father making a plea on behalf of his son, but the what he said makes him a first order asswipe.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:44 pm 
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Just stabbed by his whiskey dick for 20 minutes, no big deal.


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Oh come the hell on. "20 minutes of action" are words on a goddamn piece of paper submitted to a judge, he didn't even read out the plea in court, so it's not like he pointed to her in court and said "this slut was basically asking for it!". The phrasing is uncouth, yes even in context, but Jesus Christ, nobody was fucking stabbed by "20 minutes of action".
Well, no one was stabbed by anything that Julie DiCaro has ever said but you get fired up all the time about it in that thread.

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The dad is as indifferent to the sexual assault as one person can possibly be...


If he isn't, he sure made it seem like it.

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Yeah... like that shit that Patrick Kanes accusers mom pulled. That totally tanked her case.
And this dad kinda fucked over junior with his poor phrasing and other nitwittery.
Exactly. I doubt Juices Lecture Notes is willing to give her the same benefit of the doubt.

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Yeah, nevermind. All I had seen were excerpts, seemingly nobody wanted to link to the actual letter written by the father. Then I found this:

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OK, douchebag. But not for "20 minutes of action", for the rest of his sniveling, mealy-mouthed tone about what his son had been convicted of.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Yeah... like that shit that Patrick Kanes accusers mom pulled. That totally tanked her case.
And this dad kinda fucked over junior with his poor phrasing and other nitwittery.
Exactly. I doubt Juices Lecture Notes is willing to give her the same benefit of the doubt.


The mother of Kane's accuser? I'm willing to give her a pass, yeah. Even if it was a scheme to defraud millions in a settlement from a rich local drunken hound, all the stops gotta be pulled out when the con starts going South. Besides, she didn't commit a crime either.


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Yeah, nevermind. All I had seen were excerpts, seemingly nobody wanted to link to the actual letter written by the father. Then I found this:

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OK, douchebag. Carry on.
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Honestly had only seen it quoted. I checked four WaPo articles about the case, even about the "20 minutes" shit, and they still refused to post the full text of the letter.


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Pretty impressive letter she wrote(?) and read to his face. Least the shitbag could have done was show some remorse...and the father shows the apple didn't fall far from the tree.


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What would you say about your child? I can't knock the father.

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The father could have avoided trying to make it about his stupid fucking son and allowed it to be about the girl his shitbag son tried to rape with his dick but only managed to assault and rape with his fingers and some foreign object.

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The father could have looked in the mirror and questioned how his son could do something like that...and maybe taken some responsibility for the shitty way his kid treated a blacked out woman.

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Nas wrote:
What would you say about your child? I can't knock the father.


Not use "20 minutes of action" for one.

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Nas wrote:
What would you say about your child? I can't knock the father.


Probably say I hope he can turn his life around and accept responsibility for his actions. Or just not say fucking anything because I prefer to keep my shit in house.

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What would you say about your child? I can't knock the father.


Probably say I hope he can turn his life around and accept responsibility for his actions. Or just not say fucking anything because I prefer to keep my shit in house.


I imagine that I would acknowledge what my son did was wrong but I would still defend him and say he's a good person. I wouldn't throw my kids under the bus for any reason.

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Nas wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
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What would you say about your child? I can't knock the father.


Probably say I hope he can turn his life around and accept responsibility for his actions. Or just not say fucking anything because I prefer to keep my shit in house.


I imagine that I would acknowledge what my son did was wrong but I would still defend himself and say he's a good person. I wouldn't throw my kids under the bus for any reason.

As long as you're not minimizing any wrongdoing they might have done or refusing to empathize with the victim.

The father was so unbelievably unconscious of how others would perceive his words that I wondered whether or not this was a parody or a hoax when I first read it.

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As long as you're not minimizing any wrongdoing they might have done


But isn't that the whole point of an attempt at garnering clemency from a judge, in the general sense?


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As long as you're not minimizing any wrongdoing they might have done


But isn't that the whole point of an attempt at garnering clemency from a judge, in the general sense?


Begging for mercy

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You might be able to use the "emotional" excuse when speaking , asked a question etc

When you write a letter you have the benefit of editing, reviewing , etc so that really doesn't fly


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Nas wrote:
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As long as you're not minimizing any wrongdoing they might have done


But isn't that the whole point of an attempt at garnering clemency from a judge, in the general sense?


Begging for mercy

Ya gotta admit it first

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As long as you're not minimizing any wrongdoing they might have done


But isn't that the whole point of an attempt at garnering clemency from a judge, in the general sense?


His letter came after the sentencing. Also, for a guy who is so concerned about protecting women from perverts who might try to use their bathroom you're using a surprisingly light touch in condemning this rapist.

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Also, for a guy who is so concerned about protecting women from perverts who might try to use their bathroom you're using a surprisingly light touch in condemning this rapist.


Holy Non Sequitur, Batman!

But what's your beef, now? That I haven't come down hard enough on this rapist? As if that is in any way relevant to anything?


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Also, for a guy who is so concerned about protecting women from perverts who might try to use their bathroom you're using a surprisingly light touch in condemning this rapist.


Holy Non Sequitur, Batman!

But what's your beef, now? That I haven't come down hard enough on this rapist? As if that is in any way relevant to anything?


It just seemed an odd road for you to take considering your previous concern for the well-being of women in bathrooms.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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Also, for a guy who is so concerned about protecting women from perverts who might try to use their bathroom you're using a surprisingly light touch in condemning this rapist.


Holy Non Sequitur, Batman!

But what's your beef, now? That I haven't come down hard enough on this rapist? As if that is in any way relevant to anything?


It just seemed an odd road for you to take considering your previous concern for the well-being of women in bathrooms.


Pray tell, what "soft line" have I taken on this rapist? Because to my knowledge I haven't commented on his acts or the 6 months he got.

And, again, what relevance does gender identity politicking vis a vis restrooms have when discussing clemency in a rape conviction?


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Nevermind. Dad wrote letter to judge prior to sentencing and surfaced now. My mistake.

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Juice and his lecture notes are so Panther-esque its scary.


Its like we didnt even lose Panther, which is nice


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