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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:16 am 
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Off day today, the freefall continues, and you just got swept by a division rival who was behind you in the standings going into the series. Today is the day to dire Robin.



You would think, but they just got James Shields instead.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:22 am 
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I really feel bad for you guys. Honestly. This hasn't been good. And yet Jerry cannot pull the trigger on a right move.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:38 am 
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The Sheilds deal is fine. They gave up nothing of real value to get him, and I don't care about Jerry's money.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:40 am 
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Except that was your one pre deadline move that took on payroll. Are you okay with that? Was that the best move if it prevents others?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:45 am 
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Not Ventura's fault Rollins is at DH, Coats (?) in LF and Avila as C.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:08 am 
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Robin's teams seem to always suck the most in the division

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Haven't been the same team since that game in Texas. Weak group, were never gonna win shit.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:49 pm 
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"Sooner Than Later, Fire Robin Ventura"

A Tim Baffoe Joint...

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/05/31/ ... n-ventura/

Before we get into it, you tell me if this reads like it was written by someone at Bleacher Report circa 2011, a.k.a. a 5th Grader:

"It was a bunt that finally broke me.

In the seventh inning of the Chicago White Sox’s seventh loss in a row Monday and their 15th of their last 19 games, the team’s No. 3 hitter in Melky Cabrera came to the plate with two runners on and handed the New York Mets a free out.

Maybe the bunt didn’t directly lose the White Sox a game that they felt destined to lose with Matt Harvey rediscovering his dominance against tough-luck Jose Quintana. Hell, thebunt worked in theory — the runners moved over a base — but it’s just a proven flawed theory in 21st-century baseball. The White Sox didn’t score, yet they might have had they that extra out. A managerial choice decreased the team’s chances of scoring in a close game, which decreased their chances of winning.

That’s emblematic of the little choices made by Robin Ventura that add up on a long enough timeline to equal a manager who’s not fit to captain a ship that can make the postseason but may not because of a bunt call here and a call to the bullpen there.

Until the holiday weekend, I had been fairly neutral regarding Ventura, believing he isn’t anything special but maybe too often the unfair object of fan derision. Not anymore. If this White Sox team is a playoff one, it’s without Ventura.

And that choice to fire him needs to be made sooner rather than later, lest the responsibility for this mess starts moving upward.

Jimmy Rollins isn’t a major leaguer anymore, but Ventura likes to think of him as his No. 2 hitter who hopefully only has baseballs hit within five feet of him in either direction at shortstop. Bunts will continue to be called in counterproductive situations despite having a general manager supposedly brought in a progressive baseball approach. The bullpen will continue to be mismanaged."


Typos, run-on sentences, it got to be too much, so I ended reading here.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:59 pm 
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Well, regardless of the merit I am sure Hahn and Williams are just sitting around with Jerry saying how they wonder what the pizza guy thinks.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:27 pm 
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At this point I would gladly take him back.

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6-19 since May 9th, when the team was up 6 in the division, and after tonight they will be 4th. Any real-ass team fires a manager for a slide like this, no matter how poorly the individual players have performed.


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At this point I would gladly take him back.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:22 pm 
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Robin has his closer issue back to back intentional walks to load the bases.

He is terrible.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:23 pm 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Robin has his closer issue back to back intentional walks to load the bases.

He is terrible.


He wants Parkman.

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Doubling down on the bad move of having your closer in an extra inning game on the road.

Fire him now.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Robin has his closer issue back to back intentional walks to load the bases.

He is terrible.


He wants Parkman.

Important to remember, played by David Keith and not Keith David (BITE!)

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6-13 in June, not even a patented Dead Cat Bounce to be found. This team isn't performing well in any phase of the game with regularity, especially the areas over which Robin has control. Sure, the players need to play better, but he's to blame as well, and making him go away is much easier.

At least let the fans know you're watching the same team they are. The Bulls have seemingly begun to embrace this, time for the White Sox to as well.


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I have my doubts Ventura makes it past tomorrow.

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It can't just be him.

Kenny has to go, coop has to go, Kiss Demon has to go.

Bob Bertucci can stay.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I have my doubts Ventura makes it past tomorrow.

based on what?

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RFDC wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I have my doubts Ventura makes it past tomorrow.

based on what?

W/L.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:32 pm 
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:lol: Have you seen the Sox play over the last 5 or 6 weeks?

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Darkside wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I have my doubts Ventura makes it past tomorrow.

based on what?

W/L.


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Terry's Peeps wrote:
It can't just be him.

Kenny has to go, coop has to go, Kiss Demon has to go.

Bob Bertucci can stay.


I agree Kenny has got to go and Coop needs to be cut down a peg or two (if that means its a rainy night in Lyndhurst for him as well, so be it). Kenny has had his fingerprints all over some absolutely terrible moves, and terrible teams (the LaRoche thing began and ended with him, didn't it?) and I honestly have no idea how or why JR has kept him around? No joke but...could it be some weird version of tokenism?


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