He just doesn't understand baseball. He can recite whether Ron Hansen preferred Elvis or swing music, but he does not understand the things that take place on a baseball diamond. Period.

I expect better wine / food pairings from IkeSouth than I expect logical, relevant baseball arguments from JORR.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Rolling thread.

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I can't disagree with you when it comes to pitching. I imagine that I would fleece him if we were real life GM's.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Bernstein vibe

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You don't understand shit. You just read Fangraphs and regurgitate. Repeat as needed.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I would jam fucking Shelby Miller and The Great Quintana so far down your fucking throat your team would go more than 108 years without a World Series.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Damn. 5 days in and we are down to 2 wise men?

Why are Cubs fans so angry?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Also, why are you so worked up about something that isn't even the most popular sport in America?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Seacrest is smart enough not to argue that Jose Quintana is great.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Rick couldn't settle for being a smartass to just one of them.

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I wouldn't want Miller. I would take Quintana in a heartbeat for pennies on the dollar. I would use your argument against you.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Then I'd go talk to LaRussa. Or IMU.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I dunno, you should see the team I've assembled in MLB The Show.

The LeBron of trolling. Always multi tasking and setting up multiple possible plays at once.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

How do you compare Mat Latos to Quintana? Who is your guy? For their careers, Quintana is 38-40, while Latos is 70-57.

This year Latos is 6-2 compared to 5-6. Would you wager that he will continue to out perform Quintana the remainder of the year?

Each individual game rests on the precipice of absoluteness at any given time. Each inning is simultaneously won and lost until the marginalized inefficiency of each constructed roster is exposed by the better, or worse, pitcher in a sequential march to inevitable collapse. Teams are no better, and no worse than the sum-total of their ability to rectify each other's weaknesses.

Based on their career records and their records this year JORR would argue that winning pitcher Latos should stay and losing pitcher Quintana should get DFA.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Between career and on the season, Latos is a guy that just knows how to win. Sox where 8-3 in games he started. He brings the fire, the passion. #TWTW

Wrong. Latos got hurt and was never the same. His best was better than Quintana has ever been. Like it not, he's a winner. That's something that cannot be said about The Great Quintana.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

That fact remains he is 6-2 this year and the club is 8-3 in his starts. Isn't that the kind of winner you would prefer? Injury or not.

He's a winner this year too. You have to be against this move and feel Quintana should have been the guy to DFA.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

It's much too small a sample. If he and Quintana never pitch again after today, Latos had a better career.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

And for his career. Too many of you seem to think that's accidental.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I think one of the most misunderstood things on this board (whatever its called now) is JORR's fascination with W/L. He may not even believe what he says, but he knows he's created a solved game when it comes to this validity of the win as a statistic. It's like tic-tac-toe. JORR wont always win but he knows he can force a draw.

Its quite the feat because conventional wisdom in the baseball world has thrown the win in the garbage for more than a decade now, but I dont think there's a man alive who could beat JORR's argument. He knows that, which is why its so satisfying for him to find a little fly who reads too much fangraphs wind up in one of the webs he scatters around this board (and apparently the internet at large, as he apparently prowls Facebook and comment sections looking for new prey).

I've mentioned this before. I ultimately like JORR and I admit, I take the win a little more seriously now than I did in the past. He makes compelling points.