Its true that Vazquez had some nice years for the Expos in a bygone era where all pitchers were on the pilates and green tea and could throw 200+ innings without getting hurt. He was never that pitcher again except that one year for the Braves, but he never really did it consistently after the Yankees ruined him.

Buehrle OTOH... guy was like clockwork. Every single season was 200 quality innings.

True. Buehrle would win the game and Vazquez would likely lose it.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

JLC probably thinks that Greg Maddux was lucky too because he didn't strike out batters nearly as much as the great Javy Vazquez.

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Well Buehrle is the only pitcher ever to face the minimum 27 in a CG three times in his career (I believe Koufax is the only other to do it more than once, and he did it twice). So yea, I'll take the guy who won a ring and has a perfect game on his resume at his best rather than some bum who's best years came in Montreal and Atlanta.

I'm not so sure but the fan in me would take Buehrle. I loved the guy.

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GO BEARS!!!

I have to fall back on the old SCOTUS statement, "I know it when I see it".

Your numbers tell the story that both players are similar. I can also give you similar height, weight, breast/butt/waist measurements of two women but that doesnt make them equally attractive. You have to use your eyes and see that one is classically attractive and the other is missing a couple teeth and has a face covered in warts.

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Not enough run support.

You mean...except for 2005-2009, right?



For reference, here's Javy in the Expo's years:



That's a better FIP, WHIP, ERA+, K/9, and per season and per 162 innings averages for post-NY Vazquez than Pre-.

Vasquez would pitch 4 of the best damn innings you ever saw then get shelled in the 5th.

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Great scouting on Shields.

And they're stuck owing this gopher ball machine 27M through 2018 which is roughly 10% of their entire payroll.

Wow.



Launch all these Bozo's.

45-43 at the break. I probably would have accepted that before the season but considering the start they got off to it's a disappointment. If they want to make a run at the division or the wild card they need a left handed power bat, a starter and two bullpen arms. They also need a catcher but they will most likely have to make due with what they have. Get to work, Rick.

What is the weirdest moment you’ve had as GM?

One afternoon last summer, I was filling in as first-base coach for my son’s Little League team because one of his coaches had a conflict. It was playoff game, the team was making a nice late rally, and the whole thing was a great little escape for me.

Then my phone started blowing up. After a text from [manager] Robin Ventura that read, “No. Actually, he’s cut up all the jerseys,” I knew my little escape was over….

Spite

Cry more.

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