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Ty Smith, who also goes by the name Aries, also said he’d seen Mateen being escorted drunk from the club, Pulse, on multiple occasions.

“(He’d get) really, really drunk... He couldn’t drink when he was at home—around his wife, or family. His father was really strict... He used to bitch about it,” Smith told the Canadian Press.

“Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” Smith also explained to the Orlando Sentinel, which spoke with at least four clubgoers who remembered seeing Mateen at Pulse at least a dozen times. “We didn’t really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times... He told us he had a wife and child.”

Both Callen and Smith, who are married, tell the Canadian Press they stopped speaking to Mateen after he threatened them with a knife, apparently after someone made a joke about religion.

“He ended up pulling a knife,” Callen said. “He said if he ever messed with him again, you know how it’ll turn out.”


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Dude was a self-hating gay guy, which was obviously exacerbated by religious repression from his family and upbringing. Either way, sounds like he's not a devote follower of the Koran and Hadith.

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Dude was a self-hating gay guy, which was obviously exacerbated by religious repression from his family and upbringing. Either way, sounds like he's not a devote follower of the Koran and Hadith.

Strange he pledged allegiance to an organization that requests the most devout religious action of all then.

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So he wasn't even radicalized and that diseased religion poisoned his brain enough to kill 50 people. Wonderful! Can't wait to import more of this into our country!


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Called it! Self loathing gay dude trying to make daddy proud..smh.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pul ... story.html

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Dude was a self-hating gay guy, which was obviously exacerbated by religious repression from his family and upbringing. Either way, sounds like he's not a devote follower of the Koran and Hadith.

Strange he pledged allegiance to an organization that requests the most devout religious action of all then.

You're a logical guy. A guy who kills 50 people is not. You're trying to find logic where there is none to be found.

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Who would be the 3rd wise man?

And would Rick's sermon be a non-stop argument?

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FavreFan wrote:
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http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Dude was a self-hating gay guy, which was obviously exacerbated by religious repression from his family and upbringing. Either way, sounds like he's not a devote follower of the Koran and Hadith.

Strange he pledged allegiance to an organization that requests the most devout religious action of all then.

You're a logical guy. A guy who kills 50 people is not. You're trying to find logic where there is none to be found.


He found logic in Muslim Law. Whether he was an actual or would-be jihadists, these "illogical" Muslims are motivated by Islamic supremacism,the belief that sharia, Islam’s ancient, totalitarian law, must be imposed on society.

Muhammad himself had stated, “If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.”

Killing homosexuals is not a law ISIS made up and posted in a blog. It is Muslim Law, period, end of discussion.


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Juiced wrote:
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http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Dude was a self-hating gay guy, which was obviously exacerbated by religious repression from his family and upbringing. Either way, sounds like he's not a devote follower of the Koran and Hadith.

Strange he pledged allegiance to an organization that requests the most devout religious action of all then.

You're a logical guy. A guy who kills 50 people is not. You're trying to find logic where there is none to be found.


He found logic in Muslim Law. Whether he was an actual or would-be jihadists, these "illogical" Muslims are motivated by Islamic supremacism,the belief that sharia, Islam’s ancient, totalitarian law, must be imposed on society.

Muhammad himself had stated, “If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.”

Killing homosexuals is not a law ISIS made up and posted in a blog. It is Muslim Law, period, end of discussion.

He routinely got drunk as hell, and apparently was into gay sex himself. It's kind of hard to make the argument that he believed in all that nonsense you described considering that.

If you want to believe all Muslims are evil, fine. I don't really give a shit. The problem comes when people start trying to have conversations about getting rid of all Muslims based on these type of events.

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He found logic in Muslim Law. Whether he was an actual or would-be jihadists, these "illogical" Muslims are motivated by Islamic supremacism,the belief that sharia, Islam’s ancient, totalitarian law, must be imposed on society.

Muhammad himself had stated, “If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.”

Killing homosexuals is not a law ISIS made up and posted in a blog. It is Muslim Law, period, end of discussion.
Senator Ted Cruz proudly accepted the support of Rev. Kevin Swanson at the National Religious Liberties Conference in Des Moines, Iowa, November 10, 2015. Swanson and other clerics preach that the Holy Bible requires us to round up and execute homosexuals.

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Called it! Self loathing gay dude trying to make daddy proud..smh.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pul ... story.html

When's Tebow's turn?

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Called it! Self loathing gay dude trying to make daddy proud..smh.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pul ... story.html

When's Tebow's turn?



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He found logic in Muslim Law. Whether he was an actual or would-be jihadists, these "illogical" Muslims are motivated by Islamic supremacism,the belief that sharia, Islam’s ancient, totalitarian law, must be imposed on society.

Muhammad himself had stated, “If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.”

Killing homosexuals is not a law ISIS made up and posted in a blog. It is Muslim Law, period, end of discussion.
Senator Ted Cruz proudly accepted the support of Rev. Kevin Swanson at the National Religious Liberties Conference in Des Moines, Iowa, November 10, 2015. Swanson and other clerics preach that the Holy Bible requires us to round up and execute homosexuals.


Cool story bro. Show me a passage in the bible that says we should kill homosexuals.

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The father ain't right. Probably involved.

Think about it. All day long this son of a bitch is doing interviews. Did interviews yesterday. Your son is dead and he killed 50 people. Don't you have more important things to do than talk to media? Your agenda is to do a media tour? Really?

I think he's trying to save his ass by putting it out there that "I know nothing". He's involved. FBI won't fall for it. But he doesn't know that.

They ask him about his gay bashing on youtube and he denies it. Hey, idiot!!!! It's on youtube.


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The father ain't right. Probably involved.

Think about it. All day long this son of a bitch is doing interviews. Did interviews yesterday. Your son is dead and he killed 50 people. Don't you have more important things to do than talk to media? Your agenda is to do a media tour? Really?

I think he's trying to save his ass by putting it out there that "I know nothing". He's involved. FBI won't fall for it. But he doesn't know that.

They ask him about his gay bashing on youtube and he denies it. Hey, idiot!!!! It's on youtube.


Today the father is against everything he believed in 2 days before.

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The father ain't right. Probably involved.

Think about it. All day long this son of a bitch is doing interviews. Did interviews yesterday. Your son is dead and he killed 50 people. Don't you have more important things to do than talk to media? Your agenda is to do a media tour? Really?

I think he's trying to save his ass by putting it out there that "I know nothing". He's involved. FBI won't fall for it. But he doesn't know that.

They ask him about his gay bashing on youtube and he denies it. Hey, idiot!!!! It's on youtube.


Today the father is against everything he believed in 2 days before.


Right. You hear him in these interviews? He doesn't answer the questions. He's trying to save his ass by doing the media run.

What father is doing 20 interviews the day after this happens? Don't you have other things to do? I assume he gets the body. So he has funeral plans and calling family. But no. He takes the time to talk to every network.


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The father ain't right. Probably involved.

Think about it. All day long this son of a bitch is doing interviews. Did interviews yesterday. Your son is dead and he killed 50 people. Don't you have more important things to do than talk to media? Your agenda is to do a media tour? Really?

I think he's trying to save his ass by putting it out there that "I know nothing". He's involved. FBI won't fall for it. But he doesn't know that.

They ask him about his gay bashing on youtube and he denies it. Hey, idiot!!!! It's on youtube.


Today the father is against everything he believed in 2 days before.


Right. You hear him in these interviews? He doesn't answer the questions. He's trying to save his ass by doing the media run.

What father is doing 20 interviews the day after this happens? Don't you have other things to do? I assume he gets the body. So he has funeral plans and calling family. But no. He takes the time to talk to every network.

Yeah I don't trust him.

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Yeah. At the very least you'd think he'd be in mourning for his dead son and what he did. This guy has no emotion at all. Most normal humans aren't talking to media as much as this guy. Most would show some emotion if they did talk. I mean right after it happened he's talking to every media outlet? That's insane.


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I've never had a sorta-closeted gay-homosexual faux-jihadist son die shooting up a gay club in mickey-mouseland; so i've no idea if the father's behavior is par for the course or a violation of Judith Martin's strictures on how to behave after your sorta-closeted gay-homosexual faux-jihadist son dies shooting up a gay club in mickey-mouseland


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I've never had a sorta-closeted gay-homosexual faux-jihadist son die shooting up a gay club in mickey-mouseland; so i've no idea if the father's behavior is par for the course or a violation of Judith Martin's strictures on how to behave after your sorta-closeted gay-homosexual faux-jihadist son dies shooting up a gay club in mickey-mouseland


Son is dead. No matter how it happened. At the very least you're not having CNN, CBS, ABC and NBC in your home the day after. Not unless you're insane or trying to save your ass. Trying to convince the world that you're not involved. Which is what I think he's trying to do.

I don't mind him doing interviews later. But right after it happened? That's a red flag. Hell, he was doing interviews yesterday hours after it happened.


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I've never had a sorta-closeted gay-homosexual faux-jihadist son die shooting up a gay club in mickey-mouseland; so i've no idea if the father's behavior is par for the course or a violation of Judith Martin's strictures on how to behave after your sorta-closeted gay-homosexual faux-jihadist son dies shooting up a gay club in mickey-mouseland


Son is dead. No matter how it happened. At the very least you're not having CNN, CBS, ABC and NBC in your home the day after. Not unless you're insane or trying to save your ass. Trying to convince the world that you're not involved. Which is what I think he's trying to do.

I don't mind him doing interviews later. But right after it happened? That's a red flag. Hell, he was doing interviews yesterday hours after it happened.


By 8am Sunday some media outlets were already talking about Taliban daddy's interview tossing his son under the it must be a nutty/insane break, but it isn't Islam bus.

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In your eyes
For just one moment
To be bold and naked
At your side
Sometimes I think that you'll never
Understand me
Maybe this time is forever
Say it can be, whoh

That's all you wanted
Something special, someone sacred
In your life
Just for one moment
To be warm and naked
At my side

Sometimes I think that you'll never
Understand me
But something tells me together
We'd be happy, oh oh

I will be your father figure
(Oh baby)
Put your tiny hand in mine
(I'd love to)
I will be your preacher teacher
(Be your daddy)
Anything you have in mind
(It would make me)
I will be your father figure
(Very happy)
I have had enough of crime
(Please let me)
I will be the one who loves you
'Til the end of time

That's all I wanted
But sometimes love can be mistaken
For a crime
That's all I wanted
Just to see my baby's
Blue eyes shine
This time I think that my lover
Understands me
If we have faith in each other
Then we can be
Strong, baby

I will be your father figure
Put your tiny hand in mine
I will be your preacher teacher
Anything you have in mind
I will be your father figure
I have had enough of crime
I will be the one who loves you
'Til the end of time

If you are the desert
I'll be the sea
If you ever hunger
Hunger for me
Whatever you ask for
That's what I'll be

So when you remember the ones who have lied
Who said that they cared
But then laughed as you cried
Beautiful darling
Don't think of me

Because all I ever wanted
It's in your eyes, baby,
And love can't lie, no
(Greet me with the eyes of a child)
My love is always tellin' me so
(Heaven is a kiss and a smile)
Just hold on, hold on
I won't let you go, my baby

I will be your father figure
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I will be your preacher teacher
Anything you have in mind, baby
I will be your father figure
I have had enough of crime
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'Til the end of time
I will be your father
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Something special, something sacred
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To be bold and naked
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Sometimes I think that you'll never
Understand me
Maybe this time is forever
Say it can be, whoh

That's all you wanted
Something special, someone sacred
In your life
Just for one moment
To be warm and naked
At my side

Sometimes I think that you'll never
Understand me
But something tells me together
We'd be happy, oh oh

I will be your father figure
(Oh baby)
Put your tiny hand in mine
(I'd love to)
I will be your preacher teacher
(Be your daddy)
Anything you have in mind
(It would make me)
I will be your father figure
(Very happy)
I have had enough of crime
(Please let me)
I will be the one who loves you
'Til the end of time

That's all I wanted
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There really seems to be a lot of truth to that. Which is ok, if they could admit it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The problem comes when people start trying to have conversations about getting rid of all Muslims based on these type of events.


It may be a problem without a solution. If you want freedoms there are going to be trade-offs.

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There really seems to be a lot of truth to that. Which is ok, if they could admit it. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Omar Mateen definitely did. He must have been an aspiring Republican politician.

"I'm going to prove to the world that I'm not gay by shooting up the same gay club I go to every week."

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So I guess in all future and past terrorist attacks we need to figure out if the attacker was gay or not so we can get the true motive.

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