Right. And this settlement is gonna cost them a hell of a lot more money than the expense of putting up 100 signs.

this one quote sums it all up. if you create an inviting sandy beach on alligator-infested waters, with no alligator warning signs, you deserve 100% of the blame.

On a related note, I've often thought of suing several bars for not putting up a "White women might attack" sign for all the times I've gotten punched for offering to buy them a drink.

I THINK I ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE A CASE

I should have been warned!!!!

Change the signs to "No swimming dumbasses because it is dangerous for a lot of reasons including gators"

By the way, I know Disney will pay a lot of money here. I just think it's kind of strange to think swimming would be banned but being in the water but standing was just fine.

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why would standing in a foot of water be dangerous unless someone told you there were alligators:

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Right. Most logical people don't understand the counter argument.

It's one thing to not care about adults who are simply unaware. But it's almost like a 2 year old getting killed is like "Tough luck, kid". For what? For the side that says "NO SIGNS DAMMIT". As if it offends them that this idea would be considered. Cuz a simple warning is, what? Bad? I don't get it.

I disagree, but even if true, I don't think it's reasonable to assume that what you define as "strange" logic should lead to being eaten by an alligator in the middle of a family theme park.

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Sign doesn't READ JUST FINE?

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Where's Someguy to bitch?

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For this to even come down to some sort of semantic argument of " well Disney would be at fault if this happened 1ft out of the water but since he was a couple feet in, the signage was sufficient " is fucking moronic. Bottom line is if the sign said anything about alligators being in those waters that boy is alive today.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Yes.

This isn't the first kid to be wading in the water off this beach.

And wading =/= swimming.

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Watching ABC news right now.

Disney said they will now put up "Gator" signs.

CSFMB dumb asses: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! What's next? Does this now mean McDonalds will have to put us signs saying their food might kill you eventually?

Beardown:

I think the fact that they closed many of the beaches in the resorts for this and are now putting up Gator signage reads they think that yeah , we might've bungled this one

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I bet Bernstein is salivating at the public relations brainpower getting together at Disney right now.

Listen. To. The. Experts.

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look. I'm tellin ya. in the 80s you were encouraged to swim in the lakes. they had those rope things to keep the little rental boats from killing you. anyways I go back 5 years ago and you're no longer allowed to swim in the lakes. I didn't realize why. just figured some liability of some sort.

now it all makes sense.

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I'm with Turd in that I think Disney may have made a conscious effort not to put up more explicit signs that might make people feel uncomfortable.

On the other hand, there hasn't been a similar attack in the past 50 years, so maybe Disney didn't think about it.

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Snakes, bacteria, slipping and falling, debris you can't see, gators.

There is a reason even public beaches have a "swim area".

Especially since we are talking about going into the water at night as a 2 year old here.

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Things happen. It doesn't make the family even better but people were "not swimming but going in the water" there for years or decades and not a single thing happened.

It's Florida. There are gators everywhere around water. This is a pretty common accepted fact.

The parents may not have known that.

I mean, are we honestly saying it is the right decision to look at a "no swimming" sign and say "Well, just keep the water below your belly button"?

Maybe in the future if you see a "no swimming sign" you do the obvious and don't chance going in the water at all.

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Bbrick - did you grow up in Florida or visit often? As someone who has never been, I didn't think this was a common sense issue. I know they exist in Florida, but I never would expect them to be an issue at Disney land.




I think this is actually Hilary's campaign slogan for the general election.

Deciphering between "No Swimming" and "No Wading" shouldn't be left to chance when the consequence is an alligator attack.

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Talking to doug yesterday about this and he said something kinda funny about this...
I'm paraphrasing...

When you go to Florida you know there's alligators I every body of water and you shod probably double check the pools too.

Or something like that.

Anyway Disney will be paying a lot of money on this. I'm ambivalent on this, feel like the parents should be keeping a better eye on the kid but there's also this mythology about Disney that every single inch of the park is completely and totally controlled.

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Sounds like an old-fashioned way of saying you have to take a dump, like pregnancy and "with child." "She's heavy with turd right now."

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I went golfing in Georgia two years ago, and there were gators everywhere. I didn't see one on land that was bigger than four feet, but I steered clear of the water.

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<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Not if you are from Nebraska. The father was with the kid and tried to save him.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Solution to the "bad optics" of Magic Kingdom warning signage, all Disney has to do now is steal my idea like Oswald the Rabbit and, um, buy a sheet metal factory, I guess:

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I'm reasonably sure that if the signs said ANYTHING about gators being in the water the parents would not have been near the shoreline at all. Same result could have happened if the toddler were a foot outside the water.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

The thing is I've been to and swam at Daytona and there weren't signs that said sharks are present in the area though they clearly are. I don't recall a single sign on the beach in Mexico warning the guests at the resort that there were dangerous animals in the water. But there certainly are.
Do we need a sign for every possible natural danger present in the sub tropical area like florida? I mean there is a possibility of dangerous spiders, sharks, hell, even monkeys. If someone got bit by a black widow spider at Disney... are the liable for wrongful death?

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There should have been signs, or at least a purple flag.

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Yeah but Disney specifically targets families as in bring everyone here and have a great time. A little more specific warning about what exactly you might be bringing your defenseless kids in contact with isn't a lot to ask.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Disney World is not the same as a public beach or any other public place. It's not an apples-to-apples comparison. Disney has a tremendous set of duties owed to its guests because of the nature of its business.

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