A lot of bad thoughts. This was a Disney resort with man made beaches.

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Quoted is pretty idiotic. Go read my posts and some others in this thread for some education about the difference between the ocean and a man made lake on a resort that features attractive nuisances such as a beach that separates the lake and the swimming pool.

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Dude it's not bad thoughts I'm just putting the rest of it out there.
So what if the beach is man made? Man can't control nature. Mostly. But the thing is you put a lagoon somewhere in FLA and there is a pretty strong possibility that something horrible will find its way in there.

I agree that Disney did nothing to protect the guests from this specific kind of attack. I'm just wondering... how many specific dangers can you warn people about? Like I said there's pretty dangerous wildlife everywhere in that part of the world. I'm simply asking if it's reasonable to say that Disney should warn guests about all of them, from infected mosquitos to black widow spiders to gators. . They're all there. They all can be deadly.

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If your giant property has numerous interconnected waterways in central Florida, you have a responsibility to manage and warn of the alligators. There's quite a bit less you can do about spiders.

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Doofus I understand the difference. Obviously being man made or Seacrest dino God made makes no difference in the possibility of wildlife eventually moving in.
The question I'm asking is how far is Disney expected to go in warning guests about potential natural dangers?

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No one is saying that a sign needs to be put up for a spider but guests should know there are alligators in the water.

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I'd say it's pretty hard to manage the gators too.

Don't get me wrong here Lynch mob... clearly Disney is at fault here. Although some blame should be given to the parents as well...

I'm just wondering how far this needs to go.

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Do tourists mistakenly think that alligators only live in the Everglades or something, and not throughout the state? Maybe they need to be reminded. Even still, psychologically, you go to Disney World and you're thinking "cool, I get to meet Mickey Mouse," not "cool, I get to meet an ancient death-monster that's been roaming wetlands for 30 million years."


It is hard, because you can relocate them over and over and they just go back to where they wanted to be in the first place, with the dipshits from plains states who toss chicken tenders at them. That doesn't mean you don't try to handle them.

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The best part of this is that Darkside felt the need to cite his source (Doug) when he dropped the insightful knowledge that, crazy as this sounds, there are gators all over Florida.


Anyone who's been to Florida one time can tell you that.

Problem is, there are people who haven't been to Florida. I heard a rumor that some of those people even end up at Disney.

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Do people really not know that? I mean Americans that is I guess I wouldn't expect your average international guest to know that but damn everyone should kinda know those motherfuckers are everywhere there.

Again... I agree Disney is at fault. Hell I hate Disney and won't shed a tear if they lost 10 billion and the park as a whole in the suit.

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You would have to be a total dope to have not been physically in Florida and not know there are gators there.

Your condescending jerkfacery is amusing though.

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Don't drag my good name through the mud of your stupidity and ignorance in this thread.

Log off now. You look dumber than usual.

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Maybe rubes think UF's sports teams are just named after something that used to freely roam the area before we killed them all, you know, like the Seminoles.

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People can know all about gators being all over Florida. Disney is such a controlled environment that it isn't crazy for people to think that there wouldn't be gators in the water on park property.

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I guess it's a good thing no one from different countries goes to DisneyWorld.


Also, there are plenty of Americans who couldn't point to 10 of the 50 states on a map including the one they live in. Last year I watched an adult on a game show spell "Kansas" as "Canus".

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That's very Christian of you Seacrest. Again.

What have I said that is so STUPID?

To recap...
Disney is largely at fault.
It should be somewhat common knowledge that gators are everywhere in central Florida.
The parents share a fraction of the blame.

What seems to be bothering most of you is my thought experiment in which I ask how many natural dangers require warning. It's just a question folks. It really shouldn't make you mad.

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Right... actually... I said that in another post earlier. Right around the time shakes called me a moron.

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Not surprising that you have still managed to miss the point.

The reason you are coming off as an idiot is because you have failed to grasp the concept of "attractive nuisance" and "responsibility to an invitee" despite 10 other people in here explaining it to you.

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I know that dude and that's pretty much exactly why I said it derp.

Based on your last sentence... can you imagine how many warning signs would be required in this world if we had to warn the stupidest segment of the population of every conceivable danger they may encounter at any given time?

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This is the thing that gets me. I have been to Disney numerous times. And every time there I felt that Disney was in total control of every part of their resort. I am honestly amazed that there was an area that gators could get to where people were located. I can easily see how a family (especially one not from Florida) would think that there was no risk of gators in that beach area.

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Dipshit. I didn't miss it I FUCKING AGREE WITH YOU. Are you so dense that you're literally not grasping what I'm asking here?

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no you didn't. You started your whole thing by comparing this incident to the time you swam in the ocean across the interstate from the Red Roof in you were staying at outside Daytona.

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I'm stunned there isn't a team whose sole job is to look for and catch gators on the Disney properties.

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Nebraskans and probably MANY Disney World guests.

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No. Not really. You can reread my posts or you can see what RFDC quoted above.

Allow me to ask you a question... should places like cocoa beach or Daytona have signs warning of possible shark attacks or should it be considered generally common knowledge that there exists a possibility that you're possibly in close proximity to those animals? Don't use the Disney thing as a backdrop to your answer. Just a serious answer.

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Thought experiment.

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I think most people equate a "no swimming" sign with the fact that either there are no lifeguards present or the water is very deep
Not that there could be bacteria, leeches etc as Rick said, or God forbid an alligator

Har Har Har yeah that's hilarious!
You can be kind of a dick a lot of times.

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