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Ok. But the Orlando guy or anyone recently that I can recall had a weapon manufactured prior to 1986. Moreover, your link spells out the process this guy would never pass to get one. It is extremely difficult for one to do so let alone a guy with this guy's background.


yet,he still got one. It's called a loophole.

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http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct/16/news/la-pn-romney-illegal-automatic-weapons-20121016



Ok. But the Orlando guy or anyone recently that I can recall had a weapon manufactured prior to 1986. Moreover, your link spells out the process this guy would never pass to get one. It is extremely difficult for one to do so let alone a guy with this guy's background.


yet,he still got one. It's called a loophole.



Jesus Jimmy he did not. This is from the USA Today article describing what he had. Their source was the ATF for crying out loud.

"The Sig Sauer MCX .223-caliber rifle's magazine capacity is 30 rounds. The weapon is a semi-automatic rifle, which means each shot requires a separate pull of the trigger."

Why do you and so many continue to gobble up this automatic stuff so easily? It is as dumb as some of the stuff the NRA uses to influence.

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So civilians should own rocket launchers,too?

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I don't know, but I'm more frightened of the government than I am of those goofs. Should only the elite be protected with firearms?

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All I know is 49 dead WITH THAT GUN.

Nobody needs to own all this shit. I'm not against guns,but not all guns are needed to be owned by the public. The nut job at Sandy Hook had something automatic or is that wrong,too?

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All I know is 49 dead WITH THAT GUN.

Nobody needs to own all this shit. I'm not against guns,but not all guns are needed to be owned by the public. The nut job at Sandy Hook had something automatic or is that wrong,too?


Wrong again Jimmy. I am bored today want to try again?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

State police seized four guns when they responded to the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in December, according to state police.

Police [said they had[ provided details in [previous] news conferences but wanted to eliminate any confusion or misinformation.

Police said they found a [b]Bushmaster .223 caliber model XM15-E2S rifle[/b] with high capacity 30 round clips, a Glock 10-mm handgun and a Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun inside the school.

Police identified Adam Lanza as the gunman who shot and killed 20 first graders and six staff members.

Police also searched Lanza’s car, which was in parking lot, and found an Izhmash Canta-12 12-gauge shotgun.

No "automatics".

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When Adam killed his sleeping, defenseless mother as she lay in bed, his choice of weapon was the Savage Mark II .22-caliber rifle, a bolt-action firearm that can accept a 10-round magazine. When it came time to travel to Sandy Hook to commit mass murder—and potentially expose himself to harm from responding law enforcement—Lanza discarded the Savage rifle and turned to the Bushmaster XM15-E2S, a semiautomatic rifle that he equipped with 30-round magazines so as to cut down on the number of times he would have to reload.

All of the firearms Adam took to Sandy Hook were semiautomatic weapons with detachable ammunition magazines. As with his Bushmaster, Adam equipped his handguns with high-capacity 30-round magazines. Adam elected to leave his Saiga tactical shotgun on the passenger seat of his car, entering the school with just his Bushmaster rifle and handguns.

Left at home were the Lanza families bolt-action rifles, which lacked both the rate of fire and capacity necessary for mass murder. Lanza also left numerous bladed weapons at home, including eight knives with a blade five inches in length or longer, a “six-foot-10-inch wooden-handled two-sided pole with a blade on one side and a spear on the opposite side,” and three samurai swords.

After the mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado on July 20, 2012, National Rifle Association board member Ted Nugent claimed, “You could do more damage with a single shot or a bolt action because he had 20 minutes … His AR-15 Smith & Wesson rifle is now the most popular sporting rifle in America. It is the number one competition, number one in self-defense. It’s the number one sporting rifle for big game and small game. And if they keep calling it an ‘assault weapon,’ I may have that aneurysm.” Nugent was wrong on several points. For starters, the Aurora shooting lasted less than two minutes, and police arrived on the scene just 90 seconds after the first call.

But more importantly, despite the gun lobby’s best attempts at marketing, the AR-15 is not a “sporting rifle.” It is a weapons platform that was designed for battlefield use and marketed to militaries around the world for that purpose. The only functional difference between the civilian and military versions of the AR-15 is that the civilian version only fires in the semiautomatic position (and not on full-auto), but that is still a rapid rate of fire—as fast as you can repeatedly pull the trigger.

Mass shooters, of course, are aware of the rifle’s lethality. Adam Lanza, for his part, had complied a “doctoral thesis” of past mass shootings, complete with details on the firearms and magazines used in each incident. Mother Jones conducted an analysis of mass shootings that occurred between 1982 and 2012 and found that more than half of all mass shooters possessed high-capacity ammunition magazines, assault weapons or both.

As Americans, we can have a reasonable debate about the type of military-style hardware that belongs in civilian hands, and why. But that debate should involve an honest accounting of weapons used by mass murderers, which are becoming increasingly familiar.

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Nice article. Says nothing about fully automatic weapons. Actually makes my point when mentioning high capacity magazines. You would have a better chance of lessening the death toll in these events if you had a 5 or 10 round magazine versus a 30 for various reasons. The reality of the "AR15" type rifle debate is the look. It looks really mean and scary when the reality is it is not operationally different than grandpa's deer rifle.

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I can't believe in this day and age that people seriously don't know the difference between semi auto and automatic yet they're experts enough to want to ban them.

Anyway I disagree that lower capacity mags majestic any differences. Like I said I can swap mags pretty goddamn quick (I'd bet a second or so) so really you're talking about one or two seconds difference which doesn't matter. I think this Orlando goof had all the time he wanted. Wasn't he holed up (euphemism) for a while before the cops entered (euphemism)

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All I know is 49 dead WITH THAT GUN.

Nobody needs to own all this shit. I'm not against guns,but not all guns are needed to be owned by the public. The nut job at Sandy Hook had something automatic or is that wrong,too?

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"ALL I KNOW" That's a tacit admission that you don't know much, Jimmy.

He had a semi-automatic weapon, Jimmy. Again, you can't walk into a gun store and purchase an
automatic rifle the way you can a shotgun or pistol or hunting rifle. Actually, you can't really walk into a gun store and by am automatic weapon.


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All I know is 49 dead WITH THAT GUN.

Nobody needs to own all this shit. I'm not against guns,but not all guns are needed to be owned by the public. The nut job at Sandy Hook had something automatic or is that wrong,too?

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"ALL I KNOW" That's a tacit admission that you don't know much, Jimmy.

He had a semi-automatic weapon, Jimmy. Again, you can't walk into a gun store and purchase an
automatic rifle the way you can a shotgun or pistol or hunting rifle. Actually, you can't really walk into a gun store and by am automatic weapon.


I guess I should know more about guns because as a teenager a guy with a gun ran past me in high school after shooting a girl. I'm not a "gun guy" but what are your suggestion's to ease the madness?

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It will be interesting to see if the "gun control" lobby immediately calls for a ban on non-self driving cars as soon as true self driving cars hit the road.

They pretty much have to.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:43 am 
So answer on the National Guard thing Mike? You can finish your several pages of splitting hairs because the AR-15 isn't full auto if you would like, but mine is a very relevant question.


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It will be interesting to see if the "gun control" lobby immediately calls for a ban on non-self driving cars as soon as true self driving cars hit the road.

They pretty much have to.


Cars were created for transportation,guns are there for killing things.

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It will be interesting to see if the "gun control" lobby immediately calls for a ban on non-self driving cars as soon as true self driving cars hit the road.

They pretty much have to.

But will PittMike lecture us on how they aren't technically self driving when one crashes into a school bus and kills a bunch of kids?


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I can't believe in this day and age that people seriously don't know the difference between semi auto and automatic yet they're experts enough to want to ban them.

Anyway I disagree that lower capacity mags majestic any differences. Like I said I can swap mags pretty goddamn quick (I'd bet a second or so) so really you're talking about one or two seconds difference which doesn't matter. I think this Orlando goof had all the time he wanted. Wasn't he holed up (euphemism) for a while before the cops entered (euphemism)


My only reason for conceding the magazine issue is pretty basic even though I "feel" as you do. Having 10 rounders makes you have to carry more of them into action. Secondly, having to reload more often (even if done quickly) gives someone more chances to take you out.

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It will be interesting to see if the "gun control" lobby immediately calls for a ban on non-self driving cars as soon as true self driving cars hit the road.

They pretty much have to.


Cars were created for transportation,guns are there for killing things.
Isn't it about saving lives?

Self driving cars will save more lives than any amount of gun control ever would.

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Sure,let the robots take over!

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So answer on the National Guard thing Mike? You can finish your several pages of splitting hairs because the AR-15 isn't full auto if you would like, but mine is a very relevant question.


I could answer by saying if you are trying to annoy me with well regulated militias I would simply say the Supreme Court has already dealt with that and the amendment stands as we have it today.

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It will be interesting to see if the "gun control" lobby immediately calls for a ban on non-self driving cars as soon as true self driving cars hit the road.

They pretty much have to.

But will PittMike lecture us on how they aren't technically self driving when one crashes into a school bus and kills a bunch of kids?


Will I?

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I came across this article a few minutes ago. It seems a guy in Germany killed 20-50 people in a cinema with a gun and ammunition belt. The numbers are not completely clear as it is developing.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/armed-man-ope ... 55941.html

The I asked myself how stringent are Germany's laws really as I have heard they are tough. So I found this.

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-c ... ermany.php

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The German system of gun control is among the most stringent in Europe. It restricts the acquisition, possession, and carrying of firearms to those with a creditable need for a weapon. It bans fully automatic weapons and severely restricts the acquisition of other types of weapons. Compulsory liability insurance is required for anyone who is licensed to carry firearms.

In recent years, German gun-control law underwent several reforms that made it even more stringent. A new Weapons Act became effective in 2003 after a school shooting in the city of Erfurt in which a student killed sixteen persons. The new Act restricted the use of large caliber weapons by young people and strengthened requirements for the safe storage of firearms.

Another reform was enacted in 2009 in response to the massacre at Winnenden, in which an eighteen-year-old killed fifteen people in the course of a school shooting. This latest reform led to the creation of a federal gun register and to intense governmental monitoring of gun owners’ compliance with requirements for the safe storage of firearms. Pursuant to the reformed legislation, the authorities may at any time request access to the premises of any registered gun owner to monitor whether proper safe-storage procedures are being observed.


I really do not have a giant larger point other than to say you cannot "law" mad men out of this stuff regardless of how hard pols may want to convince people they need to for your own good.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:51 pm 
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So answer on the National Guard thing Mike? You can finish your several pages of splitting hairs because the AR-15 isn't full auto if you would like, but mine is a very relevant question.


I could answer by saying if you are trying to annoy me with well regulated militias I would simply say the Supreme Court has already dealt with that and the amendment stands as we have it today.

The same SCOTUS that gave us Citizens United as you sit and bitch about how HRC is bought and paid for.

If you want to debate minutia about his this gun isn't "technically" an assault weapon, then also be prepared to debate the original intent of the 2nd amendment instead of immediately turning into a bitch. Read some Jefferson. Read some Hammiton. You know the guys that wrote the damn thing but you ammosexuals like to ignore?


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So answer on the National Guard thing Mike? You can finish your several pages of splitting hairs because the AR-15 isn't full auto if you would like, but mine is a very relevant question.


I could answer by saying if you are trying to annoy me with well regulated militias I would simply say the Supreme Court has already dealt with that and the amendment stands as we have it today.

The same SCOTUS that gave us Citizens United as you sit and bitch about how HRC is bought and paid for.

If you want to debate minutia about his this gun isn't "technically" an assault weapon, then also be prepared to debate the original intent of the 2nd amendment instead of immediately turning into a bitch. Read some Jefferson. Read some Hammiton. You know the guys that wrote the damn thing but you ammosexuals like to ignore?



I knew there was a reason I don't talk to you. Conflating topics into something you want to go on about is one of them. I debated no minutia. I very simply pointed out how Jimmy and others get taken in by people and institutions using terms (automatic rifle) to mislead or advance their agenda. So really I do not have to consider or explain anything further. In closing, you may not have noticed having been banned and all but I do not do these bullshit board games like yours any longer.

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http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/06/23/ ... -red-line/

oman Stabbed To Death On Red Line
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CHICAGO (CBS) — A woman was stabbed to death while riding on the Red Line.

It happened Thursday afternoon near the 47th Street stop.

According to a witness, the victim was sitting in a train car across from a man who asked her a question.

When the woman responded, he got up and began to stab her.

She collapsed and the man slit her throat, according to the witness.

Chicago Police have confirmed the woman’s death, and say they have a suspect in custody.

Service will be operating on a single track, completely bypassing the 47th stop while police continue their investigation.

Shuttles will be provided between 35th to Garfield.

The Red Line is the busiest subway in the CTA’s system.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:08 pm 
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So answer on the National Guard thing Mike? You can finish your several pages of splitting hairs because the AR-15 isn't full auto if you would like, but mine is a very relevant question.


I could answer by saying if you are trying to annoy me with well regulated militias I would simply say the Supreme Court has already dealt with that and the amendment stands as we have it today.

The same SCOTUS that gave us Citizens United as you sit and bitch about how HRC is bought and paid for.

If you want to debate minutia about his this gun isn't "technically" an assault weapon, then also be prepared to debate the original intent of the 2nd amendment instead of immediately turning into a bitch. Read some Jefferson. Read some Hammiton. You know the guys that wrote the damn thing but you ammosexuals like to ignore?



I knew there was a reason I don't talk to you. Conflating topics into something you want to go on about is one of them. I debated no minutia. I very simply pointed out how Jimmy and others get taken in by people and institutions using terms (automatic rifle) to mislead or advance their agenda. So really I do not have to consider or explain anything further. In closing, you may not have noticed having been banned and all but I do not do these bullshit board games like yours any longer.

So you care only for your set of beliefs regardless of any information to the contrary. Cool good to know.

Also good to know you are all good with abortion. SCOTUS ruled on it. Therefore it is golden. Obamacare? We should never hear a peep. It has been ruled on.


The problem with people like you is the epic levels of hypocrisy and disregard for any historical data. You chirp about things not being assault weapons because they are missing one piece, yet you could give a rats ass what the original intent of the law is.

You may not have noticed but I've been back since long before the 3 wise men took over. This is not message board games. This is called having an actual discussion and not acting like a toddler. I'm one of the few left leaning guys on here who is pro-gun.


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Baby... in your opinion what is the original intent of the law?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:39 pm 
The founders did not want a standing army. They wanted essentially what is the national Guard. As much fun as it is to twist "regulated" to mean "I can legislate the snot out of you", it means a well drilled and well trained militia. Not that we are free to arm ourselves to the hilt for the hell of it.

Rifles, handguns, shotguns fine. Hunt and shoot target and defend against an intruder all you want. I used to enjoy the target version myself but don't have the time anymore. We have the largest military in the history of man (or the Isle of Mann). There is no need for Joe Citizen to be running around with an AR or an AK. If you want to do that, join the actual militia.


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C'mon,we all know why some guys like big guns and Corvettes. :wink:

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The founders did not want a standing army. They wanted essentially what is the national Guard. As much fun as it is to twist "regulated" to mean "I can legislate the snot out of you", it means a well drilled and well trained militia. Not that we are free to arm ourselves to the hilt for the hell of it.

Rifles, handguns, shotguns fine. Hunt and shoot target and defend against an intruder all you want. I used to enjoy the target version myself but don't have the time anymore. We have the largest military in the history of man (or the Isle of Mann). There is no need for Joe Citizen to be running around with an AR or an AK. If you want to do that, join the actual militia.

I see your point. I get what you're saying. But I respectfully disagree. The right of individuals to own weapons have been twice affirmed by the Supreme court, who the founders specifically set up to interpret the laws that they themselves passed. Fact is that is now settled law.

I do agree that no one needs an AR. I don't want one and I am a firearm enthusiast. I've shot a few. They certainly are fun. Shit I got to use a marine sniper pals Beretta 50 Cal. Fucking nuts weapon. I wasn't much with it but that asshole was clipping quarter inch targets at well over 1000 yards. Crazy.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:03 pm 
I agree with you there Darko, and I believe in the rights of individuals to own weapons. I just think that we as a nation can have some sense as to which ones are fine to own and which ones should be handled by the military. And I include former military in that. They are trained to use those types of weapons and (somebody who has served help me out here on the time) even after discharge can still be brought back in case of emergency. Jim Bob and his buddies who have never served, have no intention of serving but want weapons like that because 'Murica... Yeah not so much. And I include myself in that group. I haven't shot them by have held both an AR and AK. Cool guns.


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