I'm saying it isn't clear someone intentionally caused his death.

You don't sound like you want justice.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

No charges?

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

didn't say that

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I don't know if the intention was to kill him.

However, someone clearly caused it and deserves to be blamed and punished.

The fact that it looks like not a single person will be punished indicates an unfair system.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Manslaughter- depraved indifference... Alvarez been doing this for years ..it's intentional, Foxx will do the same thing..all D.A.'s in the country pull this dog n pony show.

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I know. I was trying to figure out what you believe should have happened. It feels like they were overcharged but I doubt the outcome would have been different if we didn't have an overzealous prosecutor trying to become famous.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I don't think anyone intended to cause his death but at each step along the way an officer contributed or did not attempt to stop hardship to happening to Gray. And each officer knew their actions wouldn't be good for Gray.

This case makes it feel like a cop can get off for murder by having another office load his weapon thereby saying he didn't load the gun, so how he know pulling the trigger would shoot someone.

maybe to the layman

The crimes that have been charged have been questioned almost from the beginning. These results aren't surprising.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Overcharge to get a not guilty verdict.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

They "get off with murder" because they didn't murder him.

There were other crimes they could have been charged with and convicted of.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

What are you talking about?

My point is that someone deserves to be brought to justice for his death. You seem to be arguing that the prosecution messed up.

It does not change what I said and how valid it is.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Think of the "rough ride" like a Code Red. The prosecution would have to show that this was a regular practice employed by these officers, and that in this instance they intentionally gave Gray a "rough ride" knowing full-well that their actions would likely have resulted in his death.

It is easy enough to prove negligence--he wasn't buckled in--but I don't think any of the crimes the officers were charged with are crimes of negligence.

If the prosecutor fails to get a conviction, she goes to jail for the crime.

It could be like a game show.

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You think a murder charge is justice

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

My recollection is the prosecutor was criticized for jumping the gun to calm the riots etc. I am not up on all the charges made but it seems to me some sort of lower level manslaughter could get some convictions. Those charges though may not have pleased people either.

My hope is this does not lead to more disturbances and further loss of people's lives.

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Elections have consequences.

Where did I say that?

I believe someone here was guilty of a crime and deserves to be punished for it. I don't remember saying anywhere that it should or shouldn't be murder.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Nonsense..the people want justice and accountability..manslaughter was the charge.

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I think the people of Baltimore have already been conditioned to understand that all of these cases will lose. That was what I took from an interview after the first loss.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

People confuse the outcome with the process. I've always been of the mind that "justice" is the crucible from which some result is produced.

This is the 3rd not guilty verdict so far.

I don't believe the other 2 caused any disturbances.

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I hope not. My thinking is that it is not inevitable but when looking at 6 possible convictions as acquittals count up anger grows as well.

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Elections have consequences.

There will be some "professional" agitators that try to score points off of this but I think MANY people understood that these charges wouldn't stick. They charged a guy that should have never been charged in the first place.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Agreed.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

two of the three wisemen have spoken

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You must act as a man, not a boy.

Hmmm, that above post by Management has a Long Time Guy feel to it.

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All charges dropped against remaining 3 officers. Hopefully that dipshit DA gets fired now.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.