No one should struggle with it. No one should struggle with the idea of demanding sovereignty for their own nation. Freeing themselves from the control of 50k unelected E.U. Fascists in continental Europe isn't a bad thing or something to be scared of.

Agreed, but free trade gets all of the blame when it's really not the biggest issue.

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“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Trump went from being a candidate that only needed to tone down some of his rhetoric to waltz into the White House to an absolute disaster. He tanked his own campaign by being completely 100% dumb as fuck. I cant believe it.

I never bought into the controlled opposition angle, but now I dont know. This is the behavior of someone trying to lose.

Another step toward making America great again...

Trump's campaign on Tuesday also announced the formation of a new "Evangelical Executive Advisory Board" that will advise the candidate "on those issues important to Evangelicals and other people of faith in America," according to a release.

Members of the new group include former Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. and Faith and Freedom Coalition leader Ralph Reed.

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“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

There's no doubt anymore that he is trying to lose right?

He has accomplished his goal and is now a national political voice. It's way easier to yell about the President on cable news than it is do actually be President.

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Agreed. He wants no part of it.

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Just when Trump was getting his big coordinated media push an ex-Trump PAC (or whatever) said that his campaign was built to blow its load early (paraphrasing here) and be a protest vote. That was it.

It's obvious that person was correct. He has no ground game, no fundraising, has been giving his campaign money to his own companies and no real campaign.

Odds are that he's already talked to the RNC and this whole "convention coup" has already been planned by both sides.

maybe "they" aka "the powers that be" are starting to lay the smack down since this whole "joke" aka "wink wink nudge nudge" campaign has gone a hell of a lot farther than myself and undoubtedly many others have thought.

suffice to say that given the "choices" of uhhhh... hillary, hillary, hillary.... hmmm... hillary, or maybe bernie as/or some third party candidate = obviously i'd prefer trump (if anything just for the sheer entertainment value of him continuing to trigger all the unrepentant lefties to the point of maybe actually making them repent b4 god in the hopes of slowing/stopping/derailing the trump train)

HOWEVER

idk if i believe all of the bullshit he's spouting right now outside of him playing a made-for-TV/internets role in this process to "elect" someone for the ULTIMATE made-for-TV/internets role (the president of the USA). not only that, but don't most presidential candidates promise the moon and end up delivering a telescope for people to go up to it and look in like "see? there's the moon i promised!" --- to that extent i wouldn't be surprised if trump is just saying all this crazy/off-the-wall shit in the hopes of either 1) trying to appeal to the most fringey dyed-in-the-wool xenophobes/conspiratards/crazies/actual-bigots figuring that getting high voter turnout from the lunatic fringe = more votes for him comprised of votes that don't usually bother voting AND/OR 2) maybe he actually IS that controlled opposition, and his whole schtick is just being a populist movement gone off the rails so it turns out that all of those "I'M READY FOR HILLARY" bumper stickers pressed up in 2012-13 end up being 100% correct (in that it's ALWAYS been hillary's turn next and it only matters whether you're technically ready or not to accept the inevitablity of hillary as our next president)

it's entirely possible that "they"/TPTB knew that any decent conservative candidate worth half a shit would crush hillary in terms f the people wanting "hope and change" that they hope that the last 8 years of "hope and change" will change. so in order to continue in the same general direction as obama/leftyshit/etc they basically had to take over the conservative side of things with some kind of a "super candidate", you know the outsider who talks a game that's almost too good to be true but there's no way in hell he can actually be president (i.e. the same way obama was initially presented in 2007-2008) but then MIRACLES DO HAPPEN and "grassroots movements" take hold and THE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR VOICE/S HEARD and the unlikely guy rises up to become an actual favorite...... only this time some of the core concepts of trump (outside of his outlandish shit about walls and DNA testing every non-white foreigner and etc) were way to good to actually have happen so now he's scheduled for some kind of self-destruction that might have begun with this shit, but hey if he ever gets around to, say, "naming the jew" or something else equally LUNATIC/FRINGE then you'll know this shit is for-sure "el donezo" aka dead and buried.

personally like the bumper sticker on my laptop proudly decrees i've been ready for the inevitability of hillary for years.... that said GO TRUMP! (if he actually made it without getting assassinated or anything i have faith in "the combine" to supply him with enough surrogate minds to provide all of his policies while Trump's imdb page gets updated with "LIFE, President of the USA (2016-???)

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Trump's comments on bad trade deals wreaking havoc on the middle class struck a real chord. A lot of people (like me!) who laughed him off suddenly came around to the idea of him with that shit alone. I was willing to tolerate his dumb persona because that campaign platform seemed pretty genuine, but I'm already worn out. Without the bi-weekly validation of a primary victory his campaign doesn't have any momentum, and that leads to the stupid candidate acting like an idiot.

Oh well, I dont think there's any stopping the decline of the Empire at this point so its not like Hillary will make a difference.

After the convention,his numbers will soar. He needs that "mo" to hold up though.
A bold VP choice might be a lightning rod but not sure who that would be.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I agree with idea that Trump doesn’t really want to be POTUS. Still not clear on his motive, but he’s successfully made a joke of the GOP. The question that remains to be seen is can he dismantle the Hillary and the DEMs for the frauds they are. Bernie pussed out and turned out to be a fraud and the train rolls on.

There’s no Republican convention coup that can put a Republican in the White House. They will lose. Trump will lose.

This has been the strangest of elections…. Even if Hillary’s closet gets opened and she goes down, the DEMs will put up a replacement and still win easily.

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Trump is proof that Republican voters hate their Republican leaders as much as Democrats do.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

true...now if there's a way to get Democratic voters to hate their democratic leaders.

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Bernie is proof that MANY Democratic voters hate their Democratic leaders as much as Republicans do.

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No...if they did, they'd vote Liberatarian or somewhere else.
All will gladly vote Hillary regardless of the name associated with the GOP.

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A recent poll showed that she is currently only pulling 55% of Bernie voters. Trump has 22% & Johnson at 18%. Just wait until they actually SEE Johnson's proposals though.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Hank Scorpion will not.
Leashingkids will not.
I will not.

That's 3...

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I stand corrected.
Still...Hillary or any other DEM will win IL and the white house. The GOP is more of trainwreck than ever before, which is hard to believe to be possible.

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A vote for "other" is a vote for Trump.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I still don't think Trump should be counted out. The Brexit campaign provides him with a template for a possible victory in the presidential election. If he focuses on trade and immigration, he will re-establish a bi-partisan appeal that will be difficult for Clinton to overcome. Trump also needs to do a better job of characterizing Clinton as a servant of the global corporate order, an internationalist whose commitment to American values and prosperity is questionable.

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Trump can't stop talking about himself though.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I'm not voting Hillary. Not voting Trump either. Doesn't matter...Hillary cannot lose. It's more set in stone than Obama was at this point.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

This is the best news Trump could have.

I agree with TM. There is still a lot of time left before Nov. It does not look good for him right now, but he cannot be counted out. There are a lot of people throughout the country that agree with him and a lot of people that cannot stand Hillary.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Maybe Trump's kids can contain him and keep him from spiking his own campaign. I still think we'll be choosing between 2 other candidates come November.

Yeah, we'll see if the changes in campaign personnel give him more focus.

His best chance to win is to make the campaign a battle between his atavistic nationalism (proto-fascism) and Clinton's corrupt, "tainted" internationalism (neoliberalism)

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8h8 hours ago
Just arrived in Scotland. Place is going wild over the vote. They took their country back, just like we will take America back. No games!

Donald Trump just happens to be in Scotland right now, which gives him the opportunity to relate to a current event, and this is a doozy. The early-morning Brexit results saw enormous fallout that will spawn the messiest divorce of all time. Everyone has an opinion on the United Kingdom choosing to pull out of the European Union, and Donald Trump’s thoughts are some of the loudest of all. Many people looked forward to hearing Trump’s thoughts on the subject because the man is entertaining. Perhaps some people were genuinely interested in his perspective. He does have fans.

Sadly for the presumptive Republican nominee, he revealed a few weeks ago that he had no understanding of Brexit while the issue was a pending referendum. His foreign-policy expertise on the matter hasn’t increased, from the looks of this tweet.

Trump believes that Scotland voted to leave the European Union when all 32 authorities within the country actually voted to remain. There’s also a good chance that Scotland may renew its 2014 motion to leave the U.K. and rejoin the E.U. all by its lonesome. Naturally, Twitter was quick to inform Trump of his error, and Lily Allen hopped in line first.

Trump didn’t appear to notice the commotion and continued to merrily tweet. He’s looking forward to a presidential relationship with England now that David Cameron is gone. Those two didn’t tolerate each other, but if Boris Johnson becomes Prime Minister, they could be fast friends.

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I still think enough of the publicly vocal Trump supporters will, when the voting curtain's closed and they don't have to try to impress their friends and cohorts with how fervently 'Murican they are, succumb to a reverse 'Bradley Effect', not unlike that which surely happened in 2008, which should effectively squelch any reasonable chance of Trump winning anything but a semi-lucrative book tour and an eventual fade into relative obscurity.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

The reason Leave won when the polls predicted Remain would win was when people were alone in the voting booth, they realized in their hearts that Great Britain, that sceptred isle, shouldn't answer to Belgium.

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Great Britain isn't the USA ... been that way for a while now ... it's an extremely lazy comparison MANY in the media seem to be throwing to as a means to propagate filler conversation.

Christ, last night I heard some pudwhack I think here or maybe across the pond (I had a number of streams and stations running) saying that in the same way that putting Maggie Thatcher into #10 directly influenced the US to put Reagan in the White House so, too, will this vote and the rantings of Nigel Fuckface Whatever usher in the presidency of Donald Trump. I mean, I might as well have gotten loaded as bad as my head hurts today from listening to that twaddle.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

IIRC, isn't it not as much "belgium" or any other individual EU member as much as it is a veritable "unelected senate" who has way more actual legislative power over the veritable "house of representatives" that people can actually elect?

i'm pretty sure i read that there's 2 tiers of people in the EU, and the one that people actually elect is akin to our house of representatives, and then the other one that people DON'T elect is akin to the senate (and ofc it has much more actual legislative power/s than the ppl who are actually elected) --- then again maybe i'm just a victim of going with a summary written by a pro-brexit mark.

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