Maybe? Probably should be.

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Too much media money to cancel now. What the hell would NBC do for a month?

You cancel now, you cancel forever.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

I know money talks...but how many lives are being put at risk? Brazil is a disaster.

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Will.Not.Happen.

They didn't even cancel an Olympics that had a terrorist attack that included multiple athletes executed.

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Right.

So imagine how bad it could get in a country currently in shambles, with no law enforcement to speak of.

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Yes

It needs to be cancelled for the sake of the entire world. Why tempt pandemic over this shit?

Truth is that the EU or USA could do this thing in the next 2 months no sweat. For instance in the USA they could have some events in LA, Chicago, PNW, Texas, NY, Ohio etc. I guarantee there's a velodrome somewhere in the country that seats enough people and looks good enough on TV for the Olympics. Not to mention there would be a total lack of overwhelming mob crowds since the events would be spread out over the 3rd largest country by area on the planet, so there wouldn't need to be a sudden occupation of some major North American city by the National Guard to secure the thing.

Put an end to a lot of the bullshit Texit talk and do something to kind of bring this country back together also. A tangible social benefit to holding a nationwide games on short notice and pulling it off. People can feel proud of this country for a little bit.

While I 100% agree that it should be cancelled or at least moved, I am 100% certain that it wont be.

yeah, that should've held these Olympics somewhere safe, where law and order rules the day and no one ever gets shot....how'd Chicago ever lose out to Brazil.

Spain already had everything built and was being run by a former IOC chairman, iirc. Japan had work to do, but their proposal for a "sustainable"/green-friendly Olympics was better than Chicago's "Uh, Murica! Obama! Chicago!"

Bad post, shows a very strong lack of awareness about what happens outside the USA. Should be ashamed.

the more you read about the conditions of the state of Rio in Brazil, the more Chicago/Illinois like the situation sounds:


Only $5.5 billion against a population for the State of Rio of 17 million? Illinois, with 5 million fewer residents, has almost double the annual deficit:




Rio accounts for 80% plus of Brazil's $15 billion plus barrels of oil produced per year.

Illinois produces around 10 mil barrels of oil a year?

I'm not even sure why it's a discussion. Cancel it.

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So that's the best your frantic Googling could find? I'm guessing you took a look at the homicide rate (which is even more cooked than Chicago's) first and realized how fucking stupid your initial statement was. Illinois has yet to be bailed out by the federal government, unlike Rio which got a $1b check from Brasilia like a month and a half ago. Did you miss that story?

That's only in the favelas; they're like the Englewoods or Lakeviews [ http://www.cwbchicago.com/ ] of Brazil



Cool that they got bailed out. I'm sure Chicago/Illinois is headed for either BR or bailout as well.

What does Rio do with all their oil cash?

We are not talking about Compton, St Louis or Detroit. Stay on message.

And I dont care how "sure" you are about Illinois/Chicago being bailed out, neither has been. Rio has. The answer to "have you been bailed out?" is binary in this context. Yes or No.

What about oil? Are you trying to compare Rio with some gulf rentier state? Or are you under the laughably outdated idea that oil is still BLACK GOLD? I'm not sure anyone knows what Petrobras does with its money, supposedly some of that money does find its way back to the state. I'd hardly call it ARAMCO or anything, but I doubt the government would let them get away with wanton theft.

Price of oil might be down at the moment, but I'd still rather be pumping 2 or 3 million barrels a day vs Illinois' 10 mil barrels a year.

So Brazil's federal government is faster to react when their political subdivisions need help. Sounds like another win for Brazil/Rio.

This guy says "did not happen"

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Relax, it's gonna be fine. Brazil's got this:



Brazil pulled off all those events without a hitch. Whereas the last time the USA hosted the Summer games?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennia ... rk_bombing

I fail to see what oil has to do with anything. How much oil is Switzerland pumping these days? How about Massachusetts? Would you rather live in Zurich or Rio? BEFORE YOU ANSWER, remember that the state of Rio de Janeiro pumps 2 or 3 million barrels a day and Zurich probably pumps absolutely zero.

And what is oil output even supposed to prove? There were more dinosaur bones down by Rio than there were up by Chicago? What kind of arbitrary nonsense is that? Oil isn't even that great for an economy. Its really just unearned wealth that goes straight to elites. Say what you will about Chicago but it still has a strong, diversified economy that derives most of its value in the innovation and production of a skilled/well educated population, not some goo pumped out of the earth. What percentage of people in Rio finish secondary school compared to Chicago? Good luck even finding those stats.

And yea Brazil's government is quicker to react when its entire national status is under immediate threat because they have made an epic mess out of these games. If it weren't for the Olympics Rio would not have gotten shit.



Ahh, who could forget the spectacle and wonder of the 2011 Military World Games.

icymi, opening ceremonies:

https://youtu.be/jN0nr15sIus

btw, if you think Switzerland/Zurich doesn't make major bank off of the oil industry, I have an uncle who is a Nigerian prince...

Ayup.

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You know exactly why it's a discussion.

There would be Billions of dollars lost.

Money is more important than people.

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Well, the Olympics are still on, but it appears they may have at least cancelled Russia.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3705101/ENTIRE-Russian-team-387-athletes-banned-competing-Rio-Olympics-punishment-country-s-state-sponsored-doping-programme.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline


ENTIRE Russian team of 387 athletes will be banned from competing at the Rio Olympics as punishment for their country’s state-sponsored doping programme

- The IOC are set to punish all 387 Russian athletes in strongest way
- Country's corrupt track and field stars were banned previously
- The ruling is set to be the most momentous in the IOC's history

The entire Russian Olympic team will today be banned from competing at the Rio Games next month, The Mail on Sunday understands.

According to well-placed sources, the International Olympic Committee will punish all 387 Russian sportsmen and women in the strongest possible way after revelations of their country’s state-sponsored doping programme shocked the world.

The country’s corrupt track and field stars have already been banned from the Games, and last week lost a desperate legal challenge to overturn that decision.

But today’s ruling – the most momentous in Olympic history – will see Russia’s medal hopes in cycling, judo, wrestling and all other disciplines excluded from competition in the wake of the scandal.

The controversy involved President Vladimir Putin’s sports ministry handing out cocktails of steroids and covering up tainted urine samples ahead of the 2012 London Olympics.

As well as excluding Russian athletes from the forthcoming Games, senior IOC figures are also advocating a ban for the 2018 Winter Olympics in South Korea. An Olympic insider told the MoS: ‘The IOC want to ban Russia to show [doping] is an assault on the whole of sport.

‘That effectively means expulsion from Rio. But Thomas Bach (the IOC president) also wants to give consideration to the rights of individuals.’

To this end, a small number of Russian athletes who train abroad, subject to stringent anti-doping procedures and demonstrably free of Russia’s sphere of corruption, may be offered a lifeline to compete in Rio under a neutral flag.

It is understood that the Committee, based in Lausanne, Switzerland, will ask each international federation, the bodies responsible for individual Olympic sports, to examine the personal merits of potential Russian athletes, to assess whether they can compete as exceptional cases.

Two have already received dispensation to compete in Brazil – Yuliya Stepanova, the 800m runner and a key whistleblower in the doping scandal, and long jumper Darya Klishina, who is based and tested in Florida.

A spokesman for the IOC said: ‘The IOC Executive Board is meeting tomorrow to discuss the participation of Russian athletes in Rio. We intend to send a statement with the decision just after the proceedings.’

The IOC’s bombshell decision is likely to enrage Mr Putin, but it is unclear whether he and other Russian dignitaries will boycott the Games.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

There will only be more of these stories going forward.

Rio de Janeiro (AFP) - The Australian Olympic team will not move into the athletes village in Rio after it was condemned as "not safe or ready" by the country's chef de mission on Sunday.

Team chief Kitty Chiller said problems include blocked toilets, leaking pipes, exposed wiring, darkened stairwells where no lighting has been installed and dirty floors in need of a massive clean.

She claimed that water has come through the ceiling resulting in large puddles on the floor around cabling and wiring.

"Due to a variety of problems in the Village, including gas, electricity and plumbing I have decided that no Australian Team member will move into our allocated building," she said in a statement.

"We were due to move into the Village on July 21 but we have been living in nearby hotels, because the Village is simply not safe or ready."

The Australian officials said they have raised their concerns with local organisers.

Chiller also claimed that the British and New Zealand delegations were experiencing similar problems in a major organisational headache with the Olympics due to get under way on August 5.

Extra maintenance staff and over 1,000 cleaners have been attempting to fix the problems and clean the Village but the faults, particularly the plumbing issues have not been resolved, said Chiller.

"Last night (Saturday), we decided to do a "stress test" where taps and toilets were simultaneously turned on in apartments on several floors to see if the system could cope once the athletes are in-house," she explained.

"The system failed. Water came down walls, there was a strong smell of gas in some apartments and there was 'shorting' in the electrical wiring."

Australian athletes arriving in the coming days will be housed in alternative accommodation.

"We welcome a decision by the IOC to recommend to the Organising Committee that stress tests be carried out throughout the Olympic Village," said Chiller.

"There is much work to be done at the Village and we appreciate the efforts of the IOC and the Rio Organising Committee to 'push things along' and solve the problems."

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Thought Aussies were tough? Quit yer bitching and be happy we allow you criminals to participate.

Anyone who has stayed in a hostel in the UK would recognize those as 4 star accommodations in London.

Might as well be cancelled for all I give a shit. All that hoopla and maybe I might watch some basketball.

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When has law and order ruled the day in Chicago?

1968.

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If Brazil can pull off the Miss Bum Bum competition, they can do this.

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