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President Joe Biden coming this fall.

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Nevermind. FBI says to leave her alone.

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Her jail would be having to have sex with Bill.

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And yes, I would take her name.

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From May 6th:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-is-going-to-be-exonerated-on-the-email-controversy-it-wont-matter/?tid=ss_tw

... That point about her intending to break classification rules is important, because in order to have broken the law, it isn’t enough for Clinton to have had classified information in a place where it was possible for it to be hacked. She would have had to intentionally given classified information to someone without authorization to have it, like David Petraeus did when he showed classified documents to his mistress (and then lied to the FBI about it, by the way). ...

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And yes, I would take her name.


:lol:

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What a time to be alive!

Feels good to live in a true Banana Republic. I wonder what he was given...the carrot or the stick?


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FBI Director: No "clear evidence" Clinton and staff intentionally violated laws....


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:42 am 
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And call me whacky but this will help Trump and his campaign or whatever you want to call it.

Elites vs Everyone Else.

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Don Tiny wrote:
From May 6th:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-is-going-to-be-exonerated-on-the-email-controversy-it-wont-matter/?tid=ss_tw

... That point about her intending to break classification rules is important, because in order to have broken the law, it isn’t enough for Clinton to have had classified information in a place where it was possible for it to be hacked. She would have had to intentionally given classified information to someone without authorization to have it, like David Petraeus did when he showed classified documents to his mistress (and then lied to the FBI about it, by the way). ...



Not true.

My wife works with classified info almost daily. She can be charged with a crime if she doesn't follow explicit rules when transferring info by mail, or by email.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:54 am 
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Hillary Clinton’s email problems might be even worse than we thought
By Chris Cillizza July 5 at 12:08 PM

Here's the good news for Hillary Clinton: The FBI has recommended no charges be brought followings its investigation of the former secretary of state's private email server.

Here's the bad news: Just about everything else.

FBI Director James Comey dismantled large portions of Clinton's long-told story about her private server and what she sent or received on it during a stirring 15-minute news conference following which he took no questions. While Comey exonerated Clinton legally speaking, he provided huge amounts of fodder that could badly hamstring her in the court of public opinion.

Most importantly, Comey said the FBI found 110 emails on Clinton's server that were classified at the time they were sent or received. That stands in direct contradiction to Clinton's repeated insistence she never sent or received any classified emails. And, it even stands in contrast to her amended statement that she never knowingly sent or received any classified information.

Comey condemned Clinton and her top aides as "extremely careless" in how they handled classified information during her time as the head of the State Department, adding: "Any reasonable person … should have known that an unclassified system was no place" for that sort of information.

There was more — much more. Comey said Clinton had used not one but multiple private email servers during her time at State. He said Clinton used multiple email devices during that time. (She had offered her desire to use a single device for "convenience" as the main reason she set up the private server.) He noted that the lawyers tasked by Clinton with sorting her private emails from her professional ones never actually read all of the emails (as the FBI did in the course of its investigation). Comey said that while the FBI found no evidence that Clinton's private server was hacked by foreign governments, it was possible that it had been. He argued that the Clinton lawyers had deleted emails they marked as personal that contained professional content, and that while the FBI found some of those emails in its investigation, it was certainly possible more existed that they were unable to track down.

It's worth remembering at this point that Clinton and her team deleted more emails than they turned over to the State Department.





It's hard to read Comey's statement as anything other than a wholesale rebuke of the story Clinton and her campaign team have been telling ever since the existence of her private email server came to light in spring 2015. She did send and receive classified emails. The setup did leave her — and the classified information on the server — subject to a possible foreign hack. She and her team did delete emails as personal that contained professional information.

Those are facts, facts delivered by the Justice Department of a Democratic administration. And those facts run absolutely counter to the narrative put forth by the Clinton operation: that this whole thing was a Republican witch-hunt pushed by a bored and adversarial media.

Now for the key question: How much do the FBI findings hurt her campaign?

Clinton did avoid indictment, a ruling that would have effectively ended her campaign or left it so badly weakened that there would have been a major move within Democratic circles to replace her as the nominee.

That said, campaigns aren't governed by the ultimate legality of what Clinton did or didn't do. So, while dodging an indictment is a good thing — she isn't under criminal investigation and remains a candidate — it's a far different thing from being cleared (or even close to it) in the court of public opinion.

For a candidate already badly struggling on questions of whether she is honest and trustworthy enough to hold the office to which she aspires, Comey's comments are devastating. Watching them, I could close my eyes and imagine them spliced into a bevy of 30-second ads — all of which end with the FBI director rebuking Clinton as "extremely careless."

The best thing Clinton may have going for her at this point is that Republicans are two weeks away from formally picking Donald Trump as their party's presidential nominee. Trump has shown a unique ability to hog the national spotlight and make comments that make people wonder whether he is fit to be president. While Clinton's image numbers are bad, Trump's are worse.

Still, all things considered, this is a very bad day for the Clinton campaign. It's not the worst outcome (indictment), but it badly disrupts her attempts to move beyond the email server story as she seeks to unite the party in advance of the Democratic convention later this month. And it suggests the email issue will haunt her all the way through Election Day on Nov. 8.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:55 am 
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And call me whacky but this will help Trump and his campaign or whatever you want to call it.

Elites vs Everyone Else.

Feeds right into it.


You're absolutely right. Especially when you throw in Bill Clinton meeting with the Attorney General. I'm not sure if Bill doesn't want her to get elected.

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I wish.

And yes, I would take her name.

You act like you have a choice.

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Comey also stated pretty clearly that she has sent classified emails over her personal server, hostile actors had access to it and she deleted a shit load of stuff and she lied about everything.


Food for thought:

"There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails)."


So, she broke the law and any competent person in her position should know she was breaking the law and passing around classified information.....

But there was no wrong doing.

Supreme Court Justice Lorreta Lynch....has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? And Comey now gets to keep his job and not be murdered. Everyone wins.


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Its never good for your campaign to have the director of the FBI hold press conferences about you. The race is going to tighten a little bit here.


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Lynch and Comey are now on the Board of Directors of the Clinton Foundation.

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I despise Hillary more than anyone, but agree charges are not appropriate.
it should, however, clearly indicate she has no business being POTUS.

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Don Tiny wrote:
From May 6th:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-is-going-to-be-exonerated-on-the-email-controversy-it-wont-matter/?tid=ss_tw

... That point about her intending to break classification rules is important, because in order to have broken the law, it isn’t enough for Clinton to have had classified information in a place where it was possible for it to be hacked. She would have had to intentionally given classified information to someone without authorization to have it, like David Petraeus did when he showed classified documents to his mistress (and then lied to the FBI about it, by the way). ...



Not true.

My wife works with classified info almost daily. She can be charged with a crime if she doesn't follow explicit rules when transferring info by mail, or by email.

This ^

I'm eagerly awaiting our Chinese overlords to come & cash in those debts, because Dump & $hill are nothing but a slow, painful death.


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I despise Hillary more than anyone, but agree charges are not appropriate.
it should, however, clearly indicate she has no business being POTUS.


Maybe but Trump is your alternative.

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FBI Director Comey: 110 emails found to have contained classified information at the time they were sent.


FBI to recommend DOJ not pursue charges in Clinton email investigation: "No charges are appropriate."

Absolutely surreal. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore, in reading the full transcript, Comey lays out all the reasons an indictment should be handed down....and then a quick heel turn, sweet chin music through the the Barbershop window, toss of the hair and he walks off.

She should be indicted, but no one has the balls (and they want to stay alive) to follow the bread crumbs to the Clinton Foundation and various other government elites.


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I despise Hillary more than anyone, but agree charges are not appropriate.
it should, however, clearly indicate she has no business being POTUS.


Maybe but Trump is your alternative.


This national embarrassment just made me pull the lever for Trump.


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Trump responded with a tweet about how the FBI Director was being "very, very unfair" "Unfair"?!? :lol:

It's a typical kind of a remark from a high school sophomore. And coming from that inheritance clown who routinely takes advantage of bankruptcy laws, ridiculous.

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Trump responded with a tweet about how the FBI Director was being "very, very unfair" "Unfair"?!? :lol:

It's a typical kind of a remark from a high school sophomore. And coming from that inheritance clown who routinely takes advantage of bankruptcy laws, ridiculous.


She should call him Crooked Donald, now that the scam that was Trump U. has been brought to light.

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Don Tiny wrote:
From May 6th:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-is-going-to-be-exonerated-on-the-email-controversy-it-wont-matter/?tid=ss_tw

... That point about her intending to break classification rules is important, because in order to have broken the law, it isn’t enough for Clinton to have had classified information in a place where it was possible for it to be hacked. She would have had to intentionally given classified information to someone without authorization to have it, like David Petraeus did when he showed classified documents to his mistress (and then lied to the FBI about it, by the way). ...



Not true.

My wife works with classified info almost daily. She can be charged with a crime if she doesn't follow explicit rules when transferring info by mail, or by email.

Nobody said there weren't any rules ... the point the guy was making as I read it is that being a sloppy or aloof asswipe doesn't mean jail time, only willfully and purposefully (and ultimately, in court, provably) sharing it with people not allowed to see it.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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Don Tiny wrote:
From May 6th:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-is-going-to-be-exonerated-on-the-email-controversy-it-wont-matter/?tid=ss_tw

... That point about her intending to break classification rules is important, because in order to have broken the law, it isn’t enough for Clinton to have had classified information in a place where it was possible for it to be hacked. She would have had to intentionally given classified information to someone without authorization to have it, like David Petraeus did when he showed classified documents to his mistress (and then lied to the FBI about it, by the way). ...



Not true.

My wife works with classified info almost daily. She can be charged with a crime if she doesn't follow explicit rules when transferring info by mail, or by email.

Nobody said there weren't any rules ... the point the guy was making as I read it is that being a sloppy or aloof asswipe doesn't mean jail time, only willfully and purposefully (and ultimately, in court, provably) sharing it with people not allowed to see it.


That's what I got from it too. Anything that doesn't result in a Hillary indictment will be viewed with skepticism though. Also love how the guy highlighted the difference between what she did as opposed to what Petraeus did. There was a big difference.

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