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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:43 pm 
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But, this level of carelessness should result in a pretty wide revocation of Security clearance.


For who? The president? :lol:

For the Democratic nominee and all the aids and flunkies that contributed...yes.
I know this won't happen, but she proved she is not worthy of access to classified material.

It's very hard to argue with most of the criticisms of Trump. He's a bad guy, has made bad decisions, he’s careless, and will certainly make enemies. That doesn't mean Hillary will be better. The common argument for Hillary I keep hearing is she’s strong on policy, especially foreign policy. My biggest problem is that she will act in the same manner as the last 5 Presidents. She will serve the interests of the $$ that get her elected….all of which have crippling long-term impact to the US economy. That bothers me more than Trump’s faults. Trump may have his own agenda, but in terms of the US economy, I think it’s better than the mess Hillary continue to fuel.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:47 pm 
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Watched the hearing today and she didn't send clearly marked confidential information. It sounds like the could go after the person who started the 3 emails but they're choosing not to.

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WD,

You're just talking yourself into voting for Trump when in your heart you know he has no business being President. Don't worry, many of my family and friends are doing the same thing, most of it driven by Hillary hate.

Hillary is flawed on many levels. I don't vote Democratic, I don't like her, and I won't vote for her. But there is no doubt in my mind that this country would be better off with her than Trump. It's not even close. First off, she has been in the White House for eight years. She had been in politics her whole life. She has been a U.S. Senator. She has been Secretary of State. So she is clearly qualified.

If you're worried about money driving politics, well then you'll have to get over that. The entire system is built that way. The K Street lobby depends on it. If you're worried about her lying, then how is Trump a viable option for you? Most politicians outright lie and all certainly bend the truth to get elected. It's just our ignorance to their inner workings that helps us sleep at night with the political class.

And Trump's anti trade tirades that are driving a lot of his poll numbers, well he will back track on that. He knows damn well firsthand the benefits of trade.

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Hillary is by far the most qualified to hold the highest office. It isn't even close.

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WD,

You're just talking yourself into voting for Trump when in your heart you know he has no business being President. Don't worry, MANY of my family and friends are doing the same thing, most of it driven by Hillary hate.

Hillary is flawed on MANY levels. I don't vote Democratic, I don't like her, and I won't vote for her. But there is no doubt in my mind that this country would be better off with her than Trump. It's not even close. First off, she has been in the White House for eight years. She had been in politics her whole life. She has been a U.S. Senator. She has been Secretary of State. So she is clearly qualified.

If you're worried about money driving politics, well then you'll have to get over that. The entire system is built that way. The K Street lobby depends on it. If you're worried about her lying, then how is Trump a viable option for you? Most politicians outright lie and all certainly bend the truth to get elected. It's just our ignorance to their inner workings that helps us sleep at night with the political class.

And Trump's anti trade tirades that are driving a lot of his poll numbers, well he will back track on that. He knows damn well firsthand the benefits of trade.


Hillary wins IL without my vote, so I won't vote for her or Trump.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:21 pm 
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denisdman wrote:
WD,

You're just talking yourself into voting for Trump when in your heart you know he has no business being President. Don't worry, MANY of my family and friends are doing the same thing, most of it driven by Hillary hate.

Hillary is flawed on MANY levels. I don't vote Democratic, I don't like her, and I won't vote for her. But there is no doubt in my mind that this country would be better off with her than Trump. It's not even close. First off, she has been in the White House for eight years. She had been in politics her whole life. She has been a U.S. Senator. She has been Secretary of State. So she is clearly qualified.

If you're worried about money driving politics, well then you'll have to get over that. The entire system is built that way. The K Street lobby depends on it. If you're worried about her lying, then how is Trump a viable option for you? Most politicians outright lie and all certainly bend the truth to get elected. It's just our ignorance to their inner workings that helps us sleep at night with the political class.

And Trump's anti trade tirades that are driving a lot of his poll numbers, well he will back track on that. He knows damn well firsthand the benefits of trade.
Nicely said Denis. This is why you are missed when you disappear from the politics section.

I would add, however, that while I understand the sentiment - not voting for Clinton only helps Trump. If enough people feel the same way we may end up with him by default.

To quote a former assistant to GW Bush, David Meyers: "Any Republican who claims that it’s better to elect Donald Trump than Hillary Clinton either lacks proper judgment, or has become so blinded by partisan ideology that they have lost objectivity."

He goes into more detailed reasons for those who are interested...http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/05/03/any-republican-who-thinks-its-better-to-elect-trump-than-hillary-needs-their-head-examined.html

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I agree that Trump is not qualified to be President, and despite all the positions she has held, I really can't say Hillary succeeded with any of them. Really disappointed in our country that this is the best we can do, I only take solace in the fact that the office really holds almost no influence anymore- almost as useless as the British Royal family.

My Mom keeps selling the idea that Trump will abdicate the position shortly after being elected- just to prove that he could do it, then lose interest really quickly, and leave it to somebody qualified. Hill would spend 3 years and eleven months trying to get re-elected.

Neither of them give a shit about anyone like us or any of the people we know.


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