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Dan once said he weighs her every day.
He never said that.


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Coming from bernstein, it seems more like a gleeful takedown of big time college athletics than sincere concern about child rape.


Bingo. We have a winner. That is exactly how it comes off. Plus he seems to enjoy saying child rape.



Yes he enjoyed coining that rather than the other standard terms for those actions. Maybe it was only a single case but yesterday I read that Sandusky supposedly fingered a boys ass in the shower. By strict definition that was not child "rape" in the same sens a woman must be penetrated with a penis.

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Dan once said he weighs her every day.
He never said that.


he totally did



I don't recall that exactly but he left no doubt she has a target weight and it is checked up on systematically. THERE IS A PROCESS and possibly advanced metrics going into an algorithm.

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Dan once said he weighs her every day.
He never said that.


he totally did

Yup


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He didn't evade the questions.

It was just that his volume was turned down so low it was like a Bernstein soliloquy.

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He did evade tho. He never did answer the original question.

But Bernsie did come off really bad.


listened to interview last night. the guy did evade the direct question about whether he believed the accusers were lying or not. Bernstein was definitely caught off guard when someone else used his "be specific" interview tool against him. Also was real shitty of danny to bring up the guys divorce when it had nothing to do with the conversation. Bernstein basically let the ball slip out of his hands while trying to spike it.


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Bagels wrote:
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Dan once said he weighs her every day.
He never said that.


he totally did
He said they had a rule to "never get fat" and that is why both of them work out.

He did not say he weighs her every day. There would have been a 100 page thread on it here if he had said that. That would literally be spousal abuse.

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pittmike wrote:
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Coming from bernstein, it seems more like a gleeful takedown of big time college athletics than sincere concern about child rape.


Bingo. We have a winner. That is exactly how it comes off. Plus he seems to enjoy saying child rape.



Yes he enjoyed coining that rather than the other standard terms for those actions. Maybe it was only a single case but yesterday I read that Sandusky supposedly fingered a boys ass in the shower. By strict definition that was not child "rape" in the same sens a woman must be penetrated with a penis.


I believe it is, by the strict defnintion

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I know MANY won't be listening, but for those of you that might fancy tuning in, be prepared for a heavy dose of Very. Serious. Radio.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ear ... d-records/


Wow, this stuff goes way, way back. I wonder if Ol' Uncle Jer had a little special Something for Joey.


only Lawrence a few guys on the Dan Ryan and I will get that but I just want to acknowledge your contribution


Got me on ignore, I see.

So that how it's going to be.


you guys hear something?

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good dolphin wrote:
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Coming from bernstein, it seems more like a gleeful takedown of big time college athletics than sincere concern about child rape.


Bingo. We have a winner. That is exactly how it comes off. Plus he seems to enjoy saying child rape.



Yes he enjoyed coining that rather than the other standard terms for those actions. Maybe it was only a single case but yesterday I read that Sandusky supposedly fingered a boys ass in the shower. By strict definition that was not child "rape" in the same sens a woman must be penetrated with a penis.


I believe it is, by the strict defnintion



If so, I stand corrected. I thought were were told during the Kane stuff that no rape can occur without penis penetration. I thought the legal folks would use sexual assault, sodomy or other terms without that.

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In actuality, the guy was trying, without any success, to explain how the legal system works to Dan. And the question was not evaded. He doesn't have to have an opinion of whether or not they are lying.

The guest also pointed with an example, that just because it was said in a deposition, doesn't make it factual.

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I was listening yesterday and have to wonder when Dan's coverage of this story went from reporting facts to a weird obsession. It's like trying to get a pitbull to release it's grip.

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In actuality, the guy was trying, without any success, to explain how the legal system works to Dan. And the question was not evaded. He doesn't have to have an opinion of whether or not they are lying.

The guest also pointed with an example, that just because it was said in a deposition, doesn't make it factual.


He basically asked a question the guy could not answer without getting fired. It would be irresponsible for him to have responded either way.

If he responds that he thinks the victim is lying, then he would be accused of trying to influence the courts. If he responds that he believes the victim, then he undercuts the university's (his employer) case.

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Dan shifted from do you think the victim is lying to do you think the victims as he asked over and over. Not the same at all. And honestly, who knows if victim 150 got all of the details right from a meeting that supposedly happened in 1976.

When Dan gleefully said, "That's not what your wife said." I hope that the CBS executives heard. How creepy at best. This is how Dan spends his work time? Emailing the estranged wife of a Penn St. trustee? Hope it's the final stages of lil Nancy Grace on 670.

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I was listening yesterday and have to wonder when Dan's coverage of this story went from reporting facts to a weird obsession. It's like trying to get a pitbull to release it's grip.


Great point, Jimmy. Dan repeatedly asking him why he was so obsessed with this. That might be the biggest WYC in the history of the show.

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The truly telling thing was Dan has bad mouthed the guy for 4 years as a lunatic, yet if you listen to the interview it's clear who the lunatic was, and it wasn't Lubrano.

Lubrano wasn't some super fan, he knows the case a lot better than legal expert Dan. It seems the Twitter reaction was favorable to Dan, but I can only imagine CBS management hoping this nightmare would end shortly. Repeating child rape 20 times in a 10 min interview isn't exactly great sports radio.


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WOW BERNSTEIN LOSING an argument? must listen podcast there.

Frankly, I think saying he lost isn't accurate (if for no other reason than he gets exposure now and potentially later with another go at this fella).

Rather, I'd characterize it as he tried to use a driver full-swing to sink a 3' putt... even if he lacked the skill to make what seemed to be a 'gimmee', he should've had the sense to use a different approach ... any other approach ... than what he elected to go with ... which, if I were looking to defame him I would now be able to argue that he's more interested in his own media exposure rather than some high moral ground ... I don't think that's necessarily true but, as I say, the argument is not difficult to craft now because of his missteps this afternoon.


:lol: :lol: Were you thinking of the Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge scene from the Simpsons with this reference? I've spent way too much time looking for a gif so I'll settle for the YouTube clip.

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WOW BERNSTEIN LOSING an argument? must listen podcast there.

Frankly, I think saying he lost isn't accurate (if for no other reason than he gets exposure now and potentially later with another go at this fella).

Rather, I'd characterize it as he tried to use a driver full-swing to sink a 3' putt... even if he lacked the skill to make what seemed to be a 'gimmee', he should've had the sense to use a different approach ... any other approach ... than what he elected to go with ... which, if I were looking to defame him I would now be able to argue that he's more interested in his own media exposure rather than some high moral ground ... I don't think that's necessarily true but, as I say, the argument is not difficult to craft now because of his missteps this afternoon.


:lol: :lol: Were you thinking of the Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge scene from the Simpsons with this reference? I've spent way too much time looking for a gif so I'll settle for the YouTube clip.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ac9Z6CN14Gs

:lol: Not consciously but I can't make a compelling case against it having no subconscious influence ... :lol:

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Dan wants to be a national voice so bad. The problem is you have to be likeable initially.


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Dan wants to be a national voice so bad. The problem is you have to be likeable initially.


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Bernstein's wife has BPD? You'd think he would've been a bit more understanding of Brandon Marshall, and not made specific fun of his attempts to bring awareness to mental health issues (green shoes, etc.).
Because Marshall is a self serving POS who does it to make excuses for previous bad actions and to advance his media career.

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That's total bullshit. You even admitted previously that I was right when we went back and forth on this years ago. You thought he was certainly going to continue getting arrested and that his entire condition wasn't real.

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Bernstein's wife has BPD? You'd think he would've been a bit more understanding of Brandon Marshall, and not made specific fun of his attempts to bring awareness to mental health issues (green shoes, etc.).
Because Marshall is a self serving POS who does it to make excuses for previous bad actions and to advance his media career.

:lol: :lol:

That's total bullshit. You even admitted previously that I was right when we went back and forth on this years ago. You thought he was certainly going to continue getting arrested and that his entire condition wasn't real.

I admitted I expected him to get arrested by now. That's it.

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The thing is Brandon Marshall really did nothing wrong. He may have had the personality to use his awareness of his mental issue for things but he never had another crime or assault that I know of. The reality to me seemed he had to go because he was a diva receiver and that is common.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Bernstein's wife has BPD? You'd think he would've been a bit more understanding of Brandon Marshall, and not made specific fun of his attempts to bring awareness to mental health issues (green shoes, etc.).
Because Marshall is a self serving POS who does it to make excuses for previous bad actions and to advance his media career.

:lol: :lol:

That's total bullshit. You even admitted previously that I was right when we went back and forth on this years ago. You thought he was certainly going to continue getting arrested and that his entire condition wasn't real.

I admitted I expected him to get arrested by now. That's it.

You admitted more than that, but that's fine. Anyone who looks at his actions before and after being diagnosed shouldn't have a hard time figuring out what the most likely cause of his terrible actions were.

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Or he could have just decided to stop hitting women rather than him suddenly getting cured just as he is traded again.

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Or he could have just decided to stop hitting women rather than him suddenly getting cured just as he is traded again.

Could be. That would make him a rarity though. Most who start don't stop. I'm not sure why you can't just accept occam's razor here.

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Or he could have just decided to stop hitting women rather than him suddenly getting cured just as he is traded again.

Could be. That would make him a rarity though. Most who start don't stop. I'm not sure why you can't just accept occam's razor here.
Plenty stop when they are one more incident from being out of the league.

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Or he could have just decided to stop hitting women rather than him suddenly getting cured just as he is traded again.

Could be. That would make him a rarity though. Most who start don't stop. I'm not sure why you can't just accept occam's razor here.
Plenty stop when they are one more incident from being out of the league.

Alright. It's clear you aren't even trying to look at this reasonably. Do you still think he's faking having a personality disorder?

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I believe he needed some help but I can't simply say all the bad stuff he did his whole life was not his fault and instead an undiagnosed disorder.

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Or he could have just decided to stop hitting women rather than him suddenly getting cured just as he is traded again.


To be fair, he did say publicly that he was "cured" by whatever sessions he went to, and if he does indeed have BPD, that's something that, as I understand it, can really only be maintained with regular therapy and other coping outlets, like the other two big "Cluster B" personality disorders (antisocial and narcissistic). Saying he's cured of that raises serious questions about his understanding of his own diagnosis, and even the diagnosis itself.


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I believe he needed some help but I can't simply say all the bad stuff he did his whole life was not his fault and instead an undiagnosed disorder.


You are a weird dude. You champion so many other things and outright dismiss a mental disorder in a man that has not hasnt had it manifest in years.

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