Some schools in CPS have instituted a No Zero Policy. As part of the policy students are not to receive any grade that is less than 50%. A 50% grade has to be issued even if the student fails to turn in any work at all. Some teachers are pushing back against this controversial policy.

http://catalyst-chicago.org/2013/10/stu ... y-grading/

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It's one thing if someone's dopey enough to not understand how 'activity doesn't mean accomplishment' ... it's an entirely different kind of animal (and one that should be slaughtered at that) to now suggest that 'no activity nevertheless means some accomplishment'.

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Would....

And just give them all gold stars and a social promotion. Who gives a damn if they can read or make change out of a $20?

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Most of the time I can't make change for a $20, but that's not because of a 'counting' problem ...

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There has been movement in CPS to hold kids typically African American kids, less accountable. Its been in play for about 10-15 years now and it encompasses both discipline and academics.

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it's funny because all you really need to do to get a passing grade is basically show up and turn in something

It's difficult to address the lack of jobs that pay a living wage, let alone jobs that pay well and have a future, when schools are apparently taking an active role in sending kids out into the world with no education and no marketable skills.

CPS + IL Legislature = MATCH

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At last check, CPS was graduating high school students at a less than 60% clip (42.8% dropout rate per below). And for those that do graduate (nationally) a large percentage are not prepared for the work force. They are reading at well below grade level and have not mastered basic math skills. And since we don't teach much in the way of technical/trade skills for those not going to college, how do we expect these students to be successful in life?


http://schoolreports.cps.edu/cpsedu/sch ... tSheet.pdf

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My sot so humble brag sister in law always like to run her mouth about her son ( often at the expense of running my son down) doing coding as part of the cirucculum in fucking kindergarten at whatever better than your school north side CPS he goes to

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I think there is a mathematical argument here for a minimum that isn't 0. Someone could get a 0 on one assignment and a 100% on the next assignment and it is the equivalent of someone getting two 50% on each of them. If it is really about knowledge and achievement that doesn't make a whole lot of sense since we can assume that the 0 did not reflect a complete lack of understanding of 100% of the subject matter.

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that's because math was dropped from the curriculum in favor of diversity studies

There is a discrepancy and chances are that he attends a very good school. There are some really good elementary schools on the North Side.

There are also some really good CPS high schools. Whitney Young, Payton, North Side Prep, Jones compete on a national level. The problem is that the proliferation of such schools has absolutely been devastating for neighborhood schools. They are running a social promotion racket as a way of trying to keep up.

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Read somewhere that they want to give free homeschooling options to kids in the inner city. Won't be long until you see kids taking classes with their Iphones while they play pokeman go.

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This isn't exactly true.

If everyone graduated college with straight A's we still wouldn't have enough jobs for everyone.

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It's not about a person's level of understanding, it's about that person's level of accomplishment.

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Are you saying school is not about understanding?

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I get what you're saying. But things like coding are great skills to teach early. I wish my children's school offered more robust training in that area. Good coders are printing money because their skills are rare and valuable among the general American public. Most people in business have no clue how programming works or its limitations, and thus we have to overpay to get good coders to develop all sorts of applications.

You can't spur interest in coding without teaching the subject. We need to give children exposure to subject areas where there is a business need.

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You can't assess level of understanding in this sort of situation. Any grade provided would be purely based upon presumption. It also would be solely arbitrary.

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Sure you can. Use the hypothetical of one student who misses an assignment and gets a 0, and then gets the next one in and gets a 100. The second student gets a 50% on both assignments. They receive the exact same grade when combined but unless we assume the first student would have gotten a 0 if he had turned something in then we can assume he would have shown more knowledge and/or understanding of the subject manner than the first one.

That is why having a minimum score on the assignment makes sense in a pure mathematical sense if the goal is to judge the knowledge and/or understanding of the student.

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teacher can just adjust the grading to achieve whatever ends they want. for the most part. I think a major problem is the 0% if it is late no matter what policy. turn in a great project one day late does not deserve a 0%.

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No it doesn't because you are rewarding a kid for not doing anything. Surely someone with your non-socialist leanings can "understand" this?

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That only carries weight if there are very few (such as 2) assignments.

If you're giving grades for daily work (and if there aren't pretty much daily work assignments, then what the hell's going on?), a missed assignment becomes essentially irrelevant when if comes time to tabulate grades.

Not to mention, again, that it's still receiving something for doing nothing; you can't argue that simple fact away.

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Unless you are absent it doesn't deserve a 100% or even a 90%. Personal responsibility is important. It isn't the teachers fault because you were late.

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Correct. No teacher would ever provide a quarter grade based solely on two assignments.

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It is not a reward. You still give them a failing grade. It just isn't a 0.

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This isn't about late work. it's about no work at all.

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This isn't about late work. it's about no work at all.

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They will based on 1 test. If it's weighted 60%+ for test that can make a HUGE difference.

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