Not all the bad stuff, but the violent stuff clearly was. There's a distinct line in the sand of when it stopped, correlating basically exactly with when he was diagnosed and began treatment.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

...and when he was traded and when he decided he wanted a media career.

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Well he still came off as a jerk a few times with the Bears but he avoided criminal action.

I just don't think you can explain away all of his actions, and there were a lot of them, because of his "mental disorder".

I guess the question is why didn't he get help much earlier rather than when he was traded to the Bears and when he wanted to do a media career?

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Revisionist history. He DID start getting treatment in Miami, and that was WAY before any Inside the NFL or whatever shows.

pittmike does have a point. You're one of the most logical guys on this board, but this is clearly more of an emotional argument for you. You just don't like Brandon Marshall, and it's causing you to sound a bit silly when discussing his disorder.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

You are the one bringing emotions into it. To discount every violent act he ever did because of his "mental disorder" just isn't logical. It could have contributed to it no doubt but you can't just say "I had a mental disorder" and it erases everything in the past. Otherwise, OJ and Aaron Hernandez could just say "mental disorder!" and we would just say "Not their fault".

Marshall still comes off as a jerk. He got into it with teammates in Chicago. He has gotten into it with teammates in New York already. He had that bizarre press conference with more victim blaming.

I'll be honest. From what I can tell, Marshall blames his "mental illness" for virtually all of the bad things he has ever done. I just don't buy it that he never had control of himself for any of the many things he did. It's great he has avoided criminal activity since then but it doesn't completely erase the past that you haven't hit women recently.

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If you can't see that instance as his particular brand of personality disorder down to the "T", then you shouldn't really be talking about what was and wasn't the fault of his mental illness.

EDIT: Actually, that's what retroactively makes Bernstein's incredulity during the whole thing so galling--if his wife really has BPD, he should have known from the beginning of that press conference exactly what was going on, and he chose to mock and ridicule someone so clearly losing a battle with a mental disorder, just because he didn't like him. What a fucking chode.

So your edit contradicts your original post.

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Now, who's the crazy one?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

He is a huge narcissist. I didn't know that is considered a disorder.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

initially. these guys were created entities after commercial success. skip early on when he sat in for rome was great...his persona changed. Same with Colin. (i don't understand wilbon/kornheiser. i get that some might not like them, but they don't have that brazen negativity that would make you wholly unlikeable)

Did anyone else infer that Dan hadn't even confirmed if the e-mail was really that of the guy's wife?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

It seemed legit to me. The guy was more surprised that Dan went there, rather than the actual validity behind it.

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My take as well. It's akin to IceGirl coming here to interact with like minded individuals all willing to bash Drinky. In Bernsie, she had a ready made hater who was very excited to get any dirt she had to offer.

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There are guys here who still think Icegirl is a mult. But we're really going to believe bernstein when he claims an obviously unverified email is from this guy's wife?

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yes. It sounded like Bernstein just realized that as he was saying it to the guy.

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You know me like that.

I like how they edited together a package they can replay with a bunch of quotes in the interview done in a fast way.

I don't believe the stuff about the ex-wife made it.

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I'm told someone over heard this exchange...

Penn State Player in the 70"s - "Coach, that Sandusky guy is strange, I think I saw him fondling a little kid in the showers last night"

Joe Paterno - "Listen kid, I don't care if Sandusky had his arm up that kids ass, we got Dorsett and Pitt coming to town in two weeks, we gotta practice"

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Blackhawk goal, scored by number 20, Al Secord.

I'm on the road, way behind on this stuff. Holy shit, Dan, holy shit.

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Yeah, CH, you missed an all-timer. A new low, even for Dan.

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I disagree. He clearly called Dan a liar, then dared him to read it on the air.

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Is this acting as the de-factp showthread for 7/14? Idk of its worth starting a new thread for this, but upon hearing some vintage "PeDANtic Bernstein" re: PBJ on marble rye, I was wondering PeDANtic was on the Bernstein Bingo sheet (did CH ever make a Bernstein Bingo board?)

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Btw these Dan+Drinky "DP" reads are totally PTFB. Seriously if they're not telling me about massages that TRUST THEM I WANNA GET , or uhh lingerie or something, then its stuff like right now with "mattress" reads. Trust Dan, you don't make many mattress purchases in your life so you wanna dole out extra $$$ when you DO get a mattress: TRUST HIM ON THAT ONE.

Seriously, these ain't reads for PBJ on marble rye man children. This is stiff for GROWN ASS MEN who literally want a foundation for WANG WHIPPING™®© (with or without BBS-es?

And yes I noticed that typo for "stuff" and figured it was apropos on some ol "this time my phone really DOES know better" =D

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He absolutely said it. It was a few years ago, before everyone turned on Dan, so it passed largely unremarked upon here.

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The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.

he's not only said something pretty similar to that, he's said it multiple times.

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Alert the authorities.

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Dan's obsession with this case has entered the Pete Townshend child porn research level creepy. Can't get over the that he though revealing that he contacted the guy's wife man him look like a serious journalist in his mind.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?