And this ballgame is ovah!

Scored a run after 34-2/3 ....don't stop now boys!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Get this fuckin piece of shit out of the game and put in Fulmer. Let's at least see what he can do.

They sure didn't slow him down any like I thought they would. Still looks like a relievers delivery to me but at least he's still brisk walking. That's a trait of hard throwers.

I have no idea why a guy like Carroll, who has been competent in spot start situations for years, gets cut while turner, who is the exact opposite, gets another start

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I have no idea. There is absolutely no way that guy has done anything in his shitty career that deserves to get major league starts. He should be released.

You know exactly why. Carroll is a soft-tossing right-hander who has overachieved. Turner was a top ten pick in the first round with electric stuff. The Sox aren't the first team to hope they could resurrect his career. It's like a lower level version of preferring Vazquez to Buehrle.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The fact that Scott Carroll vs Jacob Turner is even a debate is clearly a big part of the reason as to why the Sox are 6 games out of a playoff spot right now.

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No shit! It's easier to blame Ventura though.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

He is not swinging the bat or giving up home runs, but as you have said you can't fire (all of) the players. Somebody has to wear it for this season and it should be Venchura.

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I think he should have been bounced last season. But there's a difference in believing he should be fired and thinking that it's actually his fault this team is no good.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

He is part of the reason for sure.

Tim Anderson was hitless this weekend. Lets see if he is leading off in Seattle. Not that I think he should be benched, but the Sox have scored 1 run their last 4 games so the lineup should be mixed up a little bit.

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I don't think that's true at all. There isn't a manager that is going to win with this team. And what difference does it make if you mix up the lineup when most guys are going 0 for 4? Anderson isn't really a leadoff hitter. But the Sox organization is still stuck in an era when leadoff meant a fast guy who could bunt and steal bases rather than a guy who can actually get on at a high rate. Eaton should lead off, but it's not like that is going to suddenly make this a good team. He was leading off before Anderson came up and they were just as bad.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Not the way you want to start he 2nd half. That was embarrassing. You even get a solid start from Shields and get flat offensively. Eaton needs to be in the lead off spot and they need to get their heads straight with the bullpen situations.

Not good.

I think there are a few managers in the game who would have done a few things to stop the Sox May & June swoon before they fell under .500

Joe Maddon, as overloved as he is, is probably one of those guys. Ozzie Guillen would have yelled and cussed, but it would have been something which is better than doing the same thing over and over again.

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five of six versus last place teams before and after a vacation

I think there is some room to look at the way the team is managed

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I'm not advocating keeping Ventura. I'm just saying that the idea that someone else is going to come in here and "make" this team play better is fantasyland.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I do not think that somebody else can manager this current Sox team to the ALCS or the World Series.

There are managers out there that can absolutely come into the dugout today and make this team "play better."

Complacency and lack of accountability seem to be the keys under Ventura. The two times his team has been in 1st place with a relatively sizeable lead, the Sox pissed it away pretty quickly.

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Wasn't Ventura managing when they got the sizable lead?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yeah. But when things go south, it is pretty apparent Ventura has no idea pull his club out of a tailspin.

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That was a bomb....or bomb-ish

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Another piss missile from Anderson. Lightning quick hands.

Avi should get hit more.

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THE FUCK. WHAT THE FUCK.

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Let Sale try to finish. Let him nail this thing shut. Or at least try. Robinson ain't worth ten cents.

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When it rains the Sox get wet. #FireVentura

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Criminal. Ventura gave that one away.

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I can't blame that on Ventura.

If a closer can't protect a 3 run lead, that's on him.

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