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Post subject: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:44 pm

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: 7/25: Dan Gives Theo "The Bizness"

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:52 pm

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In the Cubs section?

Poor form.

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Post subject: Re: 7/25: Dan Gives Theo "The Bizness"

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:52 pm

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Post subject: Re: 7/25: Dan Gives Theo "The Bizness"

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:57 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

In the Cubs section?

Poor form.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:04 pm

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TERRIBLE trade. I think we will regret this in the next couple of years. Too fucking much for a relief pitcher.

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Phil McCracken

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:07 pm

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Nas wrote:

TERRIBLE trade. I think we will regret this in the next couple of years. Too fucking much for a relief pitcher.

COUNTERPOINT

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billypootons

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:09 pm

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Nas wrote:

TERRIBLE trade. I think we will regret this in the next couple of years. Too fucking much for a relief pitcher.

i seem to recall a certain fireballing pitcher joining a team midseason and helping said team achieve greatness

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:11 pm

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billypootons wrote:

Nas wrote:

TERRIBLE trade. I think we will regret this in the next couple of years. Too fucking much for a relief pitcher.

i seem to recall a certain fireballing pitcher joining a team midseason and helping said team achieve greatness

He also had a checkered past.

2005.

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:12 pm

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Nas wrote:

TERRIBLE trade. I think we will regret this in the next couple of years. Too fucking much for a relief pitcher.

Who exactly that they gave up is going to have any impact in the next couple of years???

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:13 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

billypootons wrote:

Nas wrote:

TERRIBLE trade. I think we will regret this in the next couple of years. Too fucking much for a relief pitcher.

i seem to recall a certain fireballing pitcher joining a team midseason and helping said team achieve greatness

He also had a checkered past.

2005.

He didn't cost 12 top prospects either.

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Phil McCracken

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:14 pm

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Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

billypootons wrote:

Nas wrote:

TERRIBLE trade. I think we will regret this in the next couple of years. Too fucking much for a relief pitcher.

i seem to recall a certain fireballing pitcher joining a team midseason and helping said team achieve greatness

He also had a checkered past.

2005.

He didn't cost 12 top prospects either.

Neither did Chapman. 1 top prospect, 1 middling prospect, 1 journeyman reliever, and 1 dude nobody has ever heard of

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:15 pm

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If you win a World Series this year, it's all worth it.

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:16 pm

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Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

billypootons wrote:

Nas wrote:

TERRIBLE trade. I think we will regret this in the next couple of years. Too fucking much for a relief pitcher.

i seem to recall a certain fireballing pitcher joining a team midseason and helping said team achieve greatness

He also had a checkered past.

2005.

He didn't cost 12 top prospects either.

cub bullpen was a weak spot... they got the best guy available. point was jenks helped solidfy the white sox bullpen, if this guy does the same it will be worth it

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Hussra

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:17 pm

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No extension? Gutted the minor league system for a 2 month rental. :lol:

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Hussra

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:19 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

If you win a World Series this year, it's all worth it.

Looks like that's what Theo's rolling the dice on. He doesn't wanna be in Chicago after this season. So he's all-in on this season, future of the Cubs post-2016 be damned.

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:19 pm

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Hussra wrote:

No extension? Gutted the minor league system for a 2 month rental. :lol:

In no way shape or form did they "gut" the system.

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

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Hussra wrote:

No extension? Gutted the minor league system for a 2 month rental. :lol:

Unlike the White Sox the Cubs have the talent to trade a prospect and still have a robust minor league system :lol:

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Phil McCracken

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:22 pm

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Hussra wrote:

No extension? Gutted the minor league system for a 2 month rental. :lol:

And honestly if this is the best concern trolling for this trade that you can manage you are better off signing up for Julie DiCaro's SJW newsletter because at least you can make the argument that Chapman is a garbage person, but to say that trading two prospects guts the Cubs farm system is so disconnected from reality that nobody is going take you seriously.

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:40 pm

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This is the year.

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:50 pm

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:12 pm

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Hussra wrote:

No extension? Gutted the minor league system for a 2 month rental. :lol:

Depending on who you read they either gave up two of their top five prospects as ranked at the beginning of 2016 or one top five and one top ten.

I wouldn't say that's gutting the system, but it is a lot of talent to give away.

The Cubs are going to get 40 innings out of Chapman, better make them count for what they gave away.

Two other teams made big moves for closers this year.

The Red Sox traded for Kimbrell (hurt) and the Astros traded for Ken Giles (bad-ish). The Giles deal especially looks pretty crummy already depending on how healthy Vinny Velazquez can stay.

Anything less than a WS title and the deal looks bad.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:23 pm

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[The Cubs are going to get 40 innings out of Chapman, better make them count for what they gave away.

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realistically, the first 25 or so are a warm up. The trade will be judged on the last 15.

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

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good dolphin wrote:

One Post wrote:

[The Cubs are going to get 40 innings out of Chapman, better make them count for what they gave away.

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realistically, the first 25 or so are a warm up. The trade will be judged on the last 15.

this guy gets it

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:26 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

One Post wrote:

[The Cubs are going to get 40 innings out of Chapman, better make them count for what they gave away.

.

realistically, the first 25 or so are a warm up. The trade will be judged on the last 15.

Sounds about right, and Maddon shouldn't hesitate to pitch Chapman into the ground in the post season.

If Bruce Bochy can experiment with Bumgarner's arm when he's under a long term deal, Maddon should use Chapman as liberally is possible.

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:35 pm

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Will Chapman be available for tonights game?

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:44 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

One Post wrote:

[The Cubs are going to get 40 innings out of Chapman, better make them count for what they gave away.

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realistically, the first 25 or so are a warm up. The trade will be judged on the last 15.

He hasn't proven that he can be trusted in key games. He's only been to the playoffs twice and he SUCKED both times. They gave up a Kings ransom to rent a guy that's unproven when they'll need him most. They had the same need in the offseason and could have acquired Chapman for substantially less.

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:46 pm

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RFDC wrote:

Will Chapman be available for tonights game?

Its Aroldis, not Will.

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:47 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

RFDC wrote:

Will Chapman be available for tonights game?

Its Aroldis, not Will.

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Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

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Nas wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

RFDC wrote:

Will Chapman be available for tonights game?

Its Aroldis, not Will.

Agreed.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Chapman to Cubs

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:52 pm

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Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

One Post wrote:

[The Cubs are going to get 40 innings out of Chapman, better make them count for what they gave away.

.

realistically, the first 25 or so are a warm up. The trade will be judged on the last 15.

that wasn't a king's ransom

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