Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
I am amazed that anyone is surprised or outraged by Sanders' support for Clinton. He clearly signaled he was going to do this throughout the campaign, especially in the debates when he described "the danger" of a Trump presidency and noted Clinton's clear contrast to Trump.
Despite his flaws, Bernie still radically altered the political discourse in this country and helped validate a kind of New Deal liberalism that was discredited in the 80s and largely expunged from political memory since the Clintons took office in the 90s.
With or without Bernie, there is a movement out there if you want to join it. As even a cursory examination of American history will demonstrate, real political and economic change can only come from the grass roots. Reform of our economic and political system will not occur without popular struggle. It is naive and historically ignorant to think otherwise.
The obsessive need (by some) to continually eviscerate Sanders as a "fraud" strikes me as a kind of cynical fantasy that disparages "politics" and "politicians" as an unconscious way of excusing people from fulfilling their responsibilities as citizens of a democracy and informed, engaged political actors. There is a kind of willful paralysis at work in some cases, and it's unwittingly escapist if not overtly disingenuous.
Yeah, he never made any bones about what he was going to do. He kid-gloved her the whole time. I think it was a mistake, but so what? Sanders was a symbol for a movement rather than the movement itself. Now he's become a symbol for a different movement, one that allows Clinton and the party regulars to posture and pretend they learned from him and try to keep as many of his voters in line as possible. I think he feels a little bad about that. He'll probably feel worse when she pats his head and sends him home to Vermont.
The look on Bernie's face was one of someone who realizes he's been had. Not saying he believed this, because, as Tall Midget said, Bernie maintained all along that he'd support Hillary against Trump, and Bernie has that resting bitch face anyway . . . but he didn't respond in any noticeable way when Hillary was extolling the virtues of his movement.
Or maybe that was his FU to her because he knows how the world often works, how people lie all the time to get what they want, how he knows his ideas won't matter to Hillary after the election.
Or maybe his reaction was just an authentic one and Bernie was thinking about his next move and wasn't gonna react any differently for Hillary or the cameras.
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rogers park bryan wrote:
This registered sex offender I regularly converse with on the internet just said something really stupid
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