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Is it? The party has gone so far to the right, that they got behind a guy who tapped into their bigotry and fear. He isn't afraid to say what they are thinking. Like Leash said, the timing was right, as pretty much every other opponent in his primary, was a complete joke. This is what they wanted, and they got it. Drumpf telling the parents of that fallen soldier that he has made plenty of sacrifices too, is just despicable. But, there was very little backlash, if any, from the right. If Hillary or Barry said that, their heads would explode.


Your bias is showing here. Right-wing does not equal bigotry. Trump is the candidate of the unemployed or underemployed white middle American. That's his base and that's who he is playing to. It's not a right-wing conservative base. Trump is all about intrusive government. He's much more like Hillary Clinton than he is like a Tea Partier, albeit with different types of government intrusions to achieve his goals.

And Trump firing back on that Gold Star father is just idiotic and makes Trump look more foolish than ever, but what's despicable is the Democrats using the father of a dead soldier to attack Trump as if Hillary, Chelsea, or draft-dodging Bill has made any of the sacrifices that they are accusing Trump of failing to make.

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Is it? The party has gone so far to the right, that they got behind a guy who tapped into their bigotry and fear. He isn't afraid to say what they are thinking. Like Leash said, the timing was right, as pretty much every other opponent in his primary, was a complete joke. This is what they wanted, and they got it. Drumpf telling the parents of that fallen soldier that he has made plenty of sacrifices too, is just despicable. But, there was very little backlash, if any, from the right. If Hillary or Barry said that, their heads would explode.


Your bias is showing here. Right-wing does not equal bigotry. Trump is the candidate of the unemployed or underemployed white middle American. That's his base and that's who he is playing to. It's not a right-wing conservative base. Trump is all about intrusive government. He's much more like Hillary Clinton than he is like a Tea Partier, albeit with different types of government intrusions to achieve his goals.

And Trump firing back on that Gold Star father is just idiotic and makes Trump look more foolish than ever, but what's despicable is the Democrats using the father of a dead soldier to attack Trump as if Hillary, Chelsea, or draft-dodging Bill has made any of the sacrifices that they are accusing Trump of failing to make.


Hillary called the mother of a fallen soldiers that died in Libya a liar. The collective Left also encircled the mother that spoke at the RNC and told her to "get over it" and one particular member of the left said he wished she would get "beaten to death." They had no issues going full attack on her, all in the name of Hillary. They also turned their backs on the parents of while they were speaking at the DNC. Once the Left is done exploiting them as a political weapon they will tossed in the dumpster.

But here we are.

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Example A and B for why we have secret ballots in this country.

Feel free to elaborate.


The secret ballot is a voting method in which a voter's choices in an election or a referendum are anonymous, forestalling attempts to influence the voter by intimidation and potential vote buying. The system is one means of achieving the goal of political privacy.

You thought we were intimidating RFDC??? :lol: :lol:

I didn't realize you scared that easily, Seacrest. We were having a conversation.

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Is it? The party has gone so far to the right, that they got behind a guy who tapped into their bigotry and fear. He isn't afraid to say what they are thinking. Like Leash said, the timing was right, as pretty much every other opponent in his primary, was a complete joke. This is what they wanted, and they got it. Drumpf telling the parents of that fallen soldier that he has made plenty of sacrifices too, is just despicable. But, there was very little backlash, if any, from the right. If Hillary or Barry said that, their heads would explode.


Your bias is showing here. Right-wing does not equal bigotry. Trump is the candidate of the unemployed or underemployed white middle American. That's his base and that's who he is playing to. It's not a right-wing conservative base. Trump is all about intrusive government. He's much more like Hillary Clinton than he is like a Tea Partier, albeit with different types of government intrusions to achieve his goals.

And Trump firing back on that Gold Star father is just idiotic and makes Trump look more foolish than ever, but what's despicable is the Democrats using the father of a dead soldier to attack Trump as if Hillary, Chelsea, or draft-dodging Bill has made any of the sacrifices that they are accusing Trump of failing to make.


Well said.

We are all capable of overlooking and/or justifying things based on who we like/dislike or based on what party label we claim.

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FavreFan wrote:
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Example A and B for why we have secret ballots in this country.

Feel free to elaborate.


The secret ballot is a voting method in which a voter's choices in an election or a referendum are anonymous, forestalling attempts to influence the voter by intimidation and potential vote buying. The system is one means of achieving the goal of political privacy.

You thought we were intimidating RFDC??? :lol: :lol:

I didn't realize you scared that easily, Seacrest. We were having a conversation.

:lol: For the record, at no point in the conversation was I intimidated

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Is it? The party has gone so far to the right, that they got behind a guy who tapped into their bigotry and fear. He isn't afraid to say what they are thinking. Like Leash said, the timing was right, as pretty much every other opponent in his primary, was a complete joke. This is what they wanted, and they got it. Drumpf telling the parents of that fallen soldier that he has made plenty of sacrifices too, is just despicable. But, there was very little backlash, if any, from the right. If Hillary or Barry said that, their heads would explode.


Your bias is showing here. Right-wing does not equal bigotry. Trump is the candidate of the unemployed or underemployed white middle American. That's his base and that's who he is playing to. It's not a right-wing conservative base. Trump is all about intrusive government. He's much more like Hillary Clinton than he is like a Tea Partier, albeit with different types of government intrusions to achieve his goals.

And Trump firing back on that Gold Star father is just idiotic and makes Trump look more foolish than ever, but what's despicable is the Democrats using the father of a dead soldier to attack Trump as if Hillary, Chelsea, or draft-dodging Bill has made any of the sacrifices that they are accusing Trump of failing to make.

Agreed that right wing does not equal bigotry. However you are being naive or purposely obtuse if you don't believe Trump's campaign appeals to racists. IMO that is a significant portion of his diehards and the growing bias against Muslims, Mexicans and to a lesser extent blacks (because of BLM) has made them an unfortunate political force. Middle class anger is a nice way of camouflaging their growth.

Which democrats specifically are you a referring to in your last statement?

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Example A and B for why we have secret ballots in this country.

Feel free to elaborate.


The secret ballot is a voting method in which a voter's choices in an election or a referendum are anonymous, forestalling attempts to influence the voter by intimidation and potential vote buying. The system is one means of achieving the goal of political privacy.

You thought we were intimidating RFDC??? :lol: :lol:

I didn't realize you scared that easily, Seacrest. We were having a conversation.


Speak for yourself. I sent a few PM's so that they knew I meant business.

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It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump. Watching the father on the Sunday shows it is clear that he is smart enough to speak for himself but JORR still has to take a shot at the Clintons and completely ignore how Trump disrespected Khan and his wife.

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It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

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No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.

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It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

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No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.

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Is it? The party has gone so far to the right, that they got behind a guy who tapped into their bigotry and fear. He isn't afraid to say what they are thinking. Like Leash said, the timing was right, as pretty much every other opponent in his primary, was a complete joke. This is what they wanted, and they got it. Drumpf telling the parents of that fallen soldier that he has made plenty of sacrifices too, is just despicable. But, there was very little backlash, if any, from the right. If Hillary or Barry said that, their heads would explode.


Your bias is showing here. Right-wing does not equal bigotry. Trump is the candidate of the unemployed or underemployed white middle American. That's his base and that's who he is playing to. It's not a right-wing conservative base. Trump is all about intrusive government. He's much more like Hillary Clinton than he is like a Tea Partier, albeit with different types of government intrusions to achieve his goals.

And Trump firing back on that Gold Star father is just idiotic and makes Trump look more foolish than ever, but what's despicable is the Democrats using the father of a dead soldier to attack Trump as if Hillary, Chelsea, or draft-dodging Bill has made any of the sacrifices that they are accusing Trump of failing to make.

Agreed that right wing does not equal bigotry. However you are being naive or purposely obtuse if you don't believe Trump's campaign appeals to racists. IMO that is a significant portion of his diehards and the growing bias against Muslims, Mexicans and to a lesser extent blacks (because of BLM) has made them an unfortunate political force. Middle class anger is a nice way of camouflaging their growth.

Which democrats specifically are you a referring to in your last statement?


I never said Trump doesn't appeal to racists. I said he's not particularly right wing. He's certainly not a conservative.

The DNC put that Gold Star father up there to attack Trump. Trump has made the same "sacrifices" as Clinton.

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It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.

Did you even read his post? He called the Trump comments idiotic.

All Clinton hate is rational. Stop kidding yourself on that one. She's a despicable person, just like Trump.

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It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.

Did you even read his post? He called the Trump comments idiotic.

All Clinton hate is rational. Stop kidding yourself on that one. She's a despicable person, just like Trump.


He glossed over it and went straight to attacking Hillary. Clinton doesn't equal Trump. Anyone who believes that is dead wrong.

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Nas wrote:
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It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.


It's actually quite rational. What's irrational is your hatred of Bernie Sanders.

I didn't say anyone put words in that guy's mouth. I said they put him on stage to bash Trump. Has Clinton made any sacrifices that Trump hasn't? Her husband was a flat out draft dodger.

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BTW anyone with that has spent time in the military or has years/decades of public service has sacrificed for their country.


No. "Public service". :lol: You sound like Richie Daley. Give me a break.

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It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.


It's actually quite rational. What's irrational is your hatred of Bernie Sanders.

I didn't say anyone put words in that guy's mouth. I said they put him on stage to bash Trump. Has Clinton made any sacrifices that Trump hasn't? Her husband was a flat out draft dodger.


She has decades of public service. She’s represented our country at the highest level. She has definitely sacrificed for our country.

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BTW anyone with that has spent time in the military or has years/decades of public service has sacrificed for their country.


No. "Public service". :lol: You sound like Richie Daley. Give me a break.

:lol: :lol:

Yeah, that's a bunch of horseshit.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.


It's actually quite rational. What's irrational is your hatred of Bernie Sanders.

I didn't say anyone put words in that guy's mouth. I said they put him on stage to bash Trump. Has Clinton made any sacrifices that Trump hasn't? Her husband was a flat out draft dodger.


She has decades of public service. She’s represented our country at the highest level. She has definitely sacrificed for our country.

What has she sacrificed? Be. Specific.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.


It's actually quite rational. What's irrational is your hatred of Bernie Sanders.

I didn't say anyone put words in that guy's mouth. I said they put him on stage to bash Trump. Has Clinton made any sacrifices that Trump hasn't? Her husband was a flat out draft dodger.

If you're not saying they wrote the speech for him nor made statements after the fact regarding it then your point doesn't make sense. Why would Mr. Kahn include the Clintons in his rebuke?

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.


It's actually quite rational. What's irrational is your hatred of Bernie Sanders.

I didn't say anyone put words in that guy's mouth. I said they put him on stage to bash Trump. Has Clinton made any sacrifices that Trump hasn't? Her husband was a flat out draft dodger.


She has decades of public service. She’s represented our country at the highest level. She has definitely sacrificed for our country.


It's really offensive that you are comparing someone losing a son to the Clintons getting rich as fuck via "public service".

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.


It's actually quite rational. What's irrational is your hatred of Bernie Sanders.

I didn't say anyone put words in that guy's mouth. I said they put him on stage to bash Trump. Has Clinton made any sacrifices that Trump hasn't? Her husband was a flat out draft dodger.

If you're not saying they wrote the speech for him nor made statements after the fact regarding it then your point doesn't make sense. Why would Mr. Kahn include the Clintons in his rebuke?


Do you think if he was going to say, "The military adventurism of Democrats caused my son's death. I'm voting Trump." he would have been on that stage?

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.


It's actually quite rational. What's irrational is your hatred of Bernie Sanders.

I didn't say anyone put words in that guy's mouth. I said they put him on stage to bash Trump. Has Clinton made any sacrifices that Trump hasn't? Her husband was a flat out draft dodger.


She has decades of public service. She’s represented our country at the highest level. She has definitely sacrificed for our country.

What has she sacrificed? Be. Specific.


Serving your country as a Senator and especially as Secretary of State is a sacrifice. Especially with all the government hate here and the hate from our adversaries abroad.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

:lol:

No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.


It's actually quite rational. What's irrational is your hatred of Bernie Sanders.

I didn't say anyone put words in that guy's mouth. I said they put him on stage to bash Trump. Has Clinton made any sacrifices that Trump hasn't? Her husband was a flat out draft dodger.

If you're not saying they wrote the speech for him nor made statements after the fact regarding it then your point doesn't make sense. Why would Mr. Kahn include the Clintons in his rebuke?


Do you think if he was going to say, "The military adventurism of Democrats caused my son's death. I'm voting Trump." he would have been on that stage?
irrelevant to your statement.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:59 pm 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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It really sounds like JORR wants to vote for Trump.

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No. He's made it pretty clear he will in no way consider voting for Trump. Don't go all Baby McNown on us and accuse everyone who criticizes Hillary of being a secret Republican.


His Clinton hate is irrational and he just insinuated that the American loving Muslim had words put in his mouth by the Clintons. At the same time ignoring the Trump comments.


It's actually quite rational. What's irrational is your hatred of Bernie Sanders.

I didn't say anyone put words in that guy's mouth. I said they put him on stage to bash Trump. Has Clinton made any sacrifices that Trump hasn't? Her husband was a flat out draft dodger.


She has decades of public service. She’s represented our country at the highest level. She has definitely sacrificed for our country.


It's really offensive that you are comparing someone losing a son to the Clintons getting rich as fuck via "public service".


I'm not comparing the sacrifices both have made. Fact is both have sacrificed. If "public service" were so lucrative you would have MANY smart people trying to get into the arena instead of avoiding it at all costs.

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Is this Trump tweet real about him reading the Secretary of the Treasury's handwriting?

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