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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:57 pm 
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Maybe I'm just jaded by the team's failures, but this is the kind of player I imagined headlining a deal for Robertson or Cabrera. Maybe there's something I'm missing about Duke but it's a pleasant surprise that they get a guy with some useful tools close to the majors for Duke's corpse.


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Maybe I'm just jaded by the team's failures, but this is the kind of player I imagined headlining a deal for Robertson or Cabrera. Maybe there's something I'm missing about Duke but it's a pleasant surprise that they get a guy with some useful tools close to the majors for Duke's corpse.


Duke was having a good season, I wouldn't consider him to be a corpse.


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Hahn clearly can't wait to rebuild. Good for him.

I wonder how much he hates having to have to deal with Kenny and still having to employ Ventura.

Would be nice if he had free reign to reboot this franchise.


I thought Ventura was Hahn's guy?


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Maybe I'm just jaded by the team's failures, but this is the kind of player I imagined headlining a deal for Robertson or Cabrera. Maybe there's something I'm missing about Duke but it's a pleasant surprise that they get a guy with some useful tools close to the majors for Duke's corpse.


Duke was having a good season, I wouldn't consider him to be a corpse.


Some aren't aware of how well Duke was performing because Robin was using him primarily in a LOOGY role, because lord knows Fat Albers and Dan Jennings need more innings.


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 Post subject: Re: Sell off 2016
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Looks like it'll just be Zach Duke and maybe Robertson dealt. Sox had a lot of chips but couldn't do anything, my guess is organizational infighting over the franchise's direction.

Hard to be a fan these days.


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Looks like it'll just be Zach Duke and maybe Robertson dealt. Sox had a lot of chips but couldn't do anything, my guess is organizational infighting over the franchise's direction.

Hard to be a fan these days.


The deadline is tomorrow at like 4ET, so they have literally 24 hours to go. Are you hearing anything definitive otherwise?


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Looks like it'll just be Zach Duke and maybe Robertson dealt. Sox had a lot of chips but couldn't do anything, my guess is organizational infighting over the franchise's direction.

Hard to be a fan these days.


The deadline is tomorrow at like 4ET, so they have literally 24 hours to go. Are you hearing anything definitive otherwise?

He is clueless. He just throws shit against the wall.

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Looks like it'll just be Zach Duke and maybe Robertson dealt. Sox had a lot of chips but couldn't do anything, my guess is organizational infighting over the franchise's direction.

Hard to be a fan these days.


The deadline is tomorrow at like 4ET, so they have literally 24 hours to go. Are you hearing anything definitive otherwise?

He is clueless. He just throws shit against the wall.


Probably thought it was still July 31st

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 Post subject: Re: Sell off 2016
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Nas wrote:
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Looks like it'll just be Zach Duke and maybe Robertson dealt. Sox had a lot of chips but couldn't do anything, my guess is organizational infighting over the franchise's direction.

Hard to be a fan these days.


The deadline is tomorrow at like 4ET, so they have literally 24 hours to go. Are you hearing anything definitive otherwise?

He is clueless. He just throws shit against the wall.


Probably thought it was still July 31st

Like I said, clueless.

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America may be a deranged petty thief, but it's been pretty clear all year that he is definitely not clueless on the White Sox. He has broken MANY stories that were not officially broken until the next day.

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He has broken MANY stories that were not officially broken until the next day.

Such as?

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He has broken MANY stories that were not officially broken until the next day.

Such as?

Danks being DFA'd and Anderson being called up. Posted it on here before any official outlet was reporting it on Twitter or anywhere else. I think there may have been something else too that I can't remember at the moment.

Either way, give the guy some credit where it's due. You may not like him, but he knows baseball and the Sox.

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Yea I didn't realize they extended it another day. I don't have any MY GUY kind of info regarding the deadline really, just a sense that they will stand pat based on what I've seen.


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 Post subject: Re: Sell off 2016
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FavreFan wrote:
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He has broken MANY stories that were not officially broken until the next day.

Such as?

Danks being DFA'd and Anderson being called up. Posted it on here before any official outlet was reporting it on Twitter or anywhere else. I think there may have been something else too that I can't remember at the moment.

Either way, give the guy some credit where it's due. You may not like him, but he knows baseball and the Sox.


I don't really recall him like breaking big stories or anything....but my memory may not be very good, but all I seem to recall is him saying things like "there is a lot of chatter about ....." whatever happening. Basically meaning he has read some twitter or other online stuff and is saying something may happen. Sure he reads up a lot on the Sox and knows stuff.

But I have a hard time giving too much credit to a guy for his work when he does not realize that the trade deadline was extended to Monday when it has been widely reported around the internet.

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Looks like another Dodger pitcher left the game early with an injury, so they're incredibly desperate.


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America definitely had the Danks and Anderson stories before anyone else.

The next story I hope he breaks early is about the dismissal of Ventura.

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America definitely had the Danks and Anderson stories before anyone else.

The next story I hope he breaks early is about the dismissal of Ventura.

I'm hoping it's that Reinsdorf dies.

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America definitely had the Danks and Anderson stories before anyone else.

The next story I hope he breaks early is about the dismissal of Ventura.

I'm hoping it's that Reinsdorf dies.


Yikes!

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America definitely had the Danks and Anderson stories before anyone else.

The next story I hope he breaks early is about the dismissal of Ventura.

I'm hoping it's that Reinsdorf dies.


Yikes!

I've said that for years. As a Bulls and Sox fan, it would improve my experience as a fan. He's a horrendous owner.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Tilson to be activated for tomorrow's game. Hells yes!


Hahn clearly can't wait to rebuild. Good for him.

I wonder how much he hates having to have to deal with Kenny and still having to employ Ventura.

Would be nice if he had free reign to reboot this franchise.


I thought Ventura was Hahn's guy?



I thought I heard the story has, Kenny had asked him passing through the hallway if he would be the manager.

I still think, Kenny is fighting Hahn about a rebuild. If would not surprise me, if they dont trade anyone and think they could retool next year.


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America definitely had the Danks and Anderson stories before anyone else.

The next story I hope he breaks early is about the dismissal of Ventura.

I'm hoping it's that Reinsdorf dies.


Yikes!

I've said that for years. As a Bulls and Sox fan, it would improve my experience as a fan. He's a horrendous owner.

I get what you are saying, but hard to be too unhappy with the 7 championships that have been celebrated during his ownership.

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America definitely had the Danks and Anderson stories before anyone else.

The next story I hope he breaks early is about the dismissal of Ventura.

I'm hoping it's that Reinsdorf dies.


Yikes!

I've said that for years. As a Bulls and Sox fan, it would improve my experience as a fan. He's a horrendous owner.

I get what you are saying, but hard to be too unhappy with the 7 championships that have been celebrated during his ownership.

Six of those are because they fell ass backwards into the greatest player who will ever play his sport. How many coaches does Pax get to hire and fire? How many rebuilds does he get to oversee? How many more years are the White Sox going to be run like a small city team? Fuck Jerry Reinsdorf. It will be a GLORIOUS day when that old fucker kicks it. I doubt Hawks fans who wished Dollar Bill would die regret those feelings now.

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I get it.

But I don't think it is the same as the Blackhawks and old man Wirtz.

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Catching up from a week on the road without much interwebz:

- Duke is being purchased for the Cardinals for one thing: to be able to pitch to Andrew McCutcheon or Bryce Harper or Anthony Rizzo. This half-generation's version of Peter Bourjos doesn't help the Cardinals worth a shit for the next five years, so they essentially got Duke for free. And Hahn was happy to unload Duke's remaining salary and bring somebody up from Charlotte or Birmingham to pitch those innings in August and September.

- Nobody other than Kenny Williams would submit a waiver claim on Robertson, so they can wait and find a team that's 2 out on August 31 and deal him then.

- I think Sale gets moved on Monday, but it might take a 3 or 4-team deal similar to the Nomah to the Cubs deal in order to get enough prospects lined up to make Hahn be able to convince Kenny and Jerry to pull the trigger. But Sale has shit on Kenny's head multiple times, so Kenny will eventually say yes to a trade.

- I have no clue re Quintana. But I can't see the White Sox figuring out a deal there.

- I had been surprised there's been no talk on Brett Lawrie, then I looked up his stats and saw he was just put on the DL. Shitty timing, as they could have gotten something for him from a team that wanted a platoon 2B/3B against lefties.

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Miley to O's is official. Means Dodgers and Rangers have to look elsewhere for their SP supplements. If the Sox can't pull off a deal in this market, Hahn deserves to have JR's stroke.


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Bot trying to be a dick, but how would America "call" things before the media unless it was just a lucky guess? Are you all saying that he has sources that are better than actual journalists have?

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Bot trying to be a dick, but how would America "call" things before the media unless it was just a lucky guess? Are you all saying that he has sources that are better than actual journalists have?


Yes.

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Bot trying to be a dick, but how would America "call" things before the media unless it was just a lucky guess? Are you all saying that he has sources that are better than actual journalists have?

I don't know, you'd have to ask him. Based on his posts this season, if he says the Sox are about to do something, it looks more likely than not that they are about to do it.

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