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You think differently and have a different set of beliefs. If what you say is true, how are suicide bombings or beheadings of randompeople gathering power, territories, or attracting followers? They are truly religious or at least acting in a way their culture accepts and encourages.


Through fear and force.



So then what? LTG thinks it's due to political interference, some think it's religious, denis thinks it's to gather power, territory, and attracting followers. Whatever the motivation the result is the same. It's the spread of a way of life that is not in line with what we believe or acceptable to us. Should we allow subjugation of women in America because they are practicing a custom? The reason matters very little to me.

The Jay report estimated there were about 10,000 victims of sexual abuse by priests of deacons over a 52 year span. I have no idea if that is accurate or not. As a Catholic I was angry, embarrassed, and disgusted. It was one of the reasons I stopped donating and attending church for the better part of 8 years. I still have a distrust for the church and do not let either of my kids be alone with preists. It has damaged my relationship with my religion. None of the bad things done in the world are unique to any religion, culture, gender, country, or ethnicity.

What is unique is the intensity and response to these acts while spreading across the globe. No other sect is doing anything close to this and if they were, they would be discussed in the same way. I don't like much of what goes on in other countries but I know there is not much I can do. However when it happens here we have every right to speak out against it or stop it altogether.


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It does no such thing! That's the problem with trying to debate you on this stuff. You know darn well that the OT is used in mass, it is taught in Diocese schools, it is the the whole scripture behind the "religious freedom" movement, yet to you it doesn't matter because Musilms are evil. Pick a lane dude. You can't go lumping the entire Muslim belief system together without also using your whole book of scripture.

(Apologies ahead of time for a large gap in responses now. I'm not ducking the debate. Rain finally stopped so I have to replace a fuel filter on this damn boat motor and get back to fishing.)



I think Don Tiny gave you the answer above, didn't he?

It's as 'ecumenical' an answer as I could give anyway.

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Jesus, some of you people have been to church too goddamn much. I have no idea what's going on in this thread.


Some prick killed some other prick and blamed it on God. The end.

Try telling that to Seacrest and JoRR when the topic is religion. Maybe someday they'll learn the uselessness of repetitive, subjective, and inconclusive arguments.

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Jesus, some of you people have been to church too goddamn much. I have no idea what's going on in this thread.


Some prick killed some other prick and blamed it on God. The end.

Try telling that to Seacrest and JoRR when the topic is religion. Maybe someday they'll learn the uselessness of repetitive, subjective, and non conclusive arguments.


JORR is a professed atheist. :lol:

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Jesus, some of you people have been to church too goddamn much. I have no idea what's going on in this thread.


Some prick killed some other prick and blamed it on God. The end.

Try telling that to Seacrest and JoRR when the topic is religion. Maybe someday they'll learn the uselessness of repetitive, subjective, and non conclusive arguments.


JORR is a professed atheist. :lol:

Who can't get enough of Islam? Atheists talk more religion than religious folk.

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Jesus, some of you people have been to church too goddamn much. I have no idea what's going on in this thread.


Some prick killed some other prick and blamed it on God. The end.

Try telling that to Seacrest and JoRR when the topic is religion. Maybe someday they'll learn the uselessness of repetitive, subjective, and non conclusive arguments.


JORR is a professed atheist. :lol:


I don't think he really is. When it's his time to go he's definitely going to say a prayer.

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Jesus, some of you people have been to church too goddamn much. I have no idea what's going on in this thread.


Some prick killed some other prick and blamed it on God. The end.

Try telling that to Seacrest and JoRR when the topic is religion. Maybe someday they'll learn the uselessness of repetitive, subjective, and non conclusive arguments.


JORR is a professed atheist. :lol:


I don't think he really is. When it's his time to go he's definitely going to say a prayer.


What about me? Think I'll say one?

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Jesus, some of you people have been to church too goddamn much. I have no idea what's going on in this thread.


Some prick killed some other prick and blamed it on God. The end.

Try telling that to Seacrest and JoRR when the topic is religion. Maybe someday they'll learn the uselessness of repetitive, subjective, and non conclusive arguments.


JORR is a professed atheist. :lol:


I don't think he really is. When it's his time to go he's definitely going to say a prayer.


What about me? Think I'll say one?

In your case, why prune a dead hedge?

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the other day i saw a crudely-drawn political cartoon where it had some hipsteriffic lefty/SJW/etc saying something to the effect of "#NotAllMuslims" regarding terror attacks, you know that you can't stereotype a whole ginormous group of people based on the actions of only a few people.... but then in the 2nd text bubble he goes on to say that Khizr Khan was a patriot who died fighting for his country: THE USA, so yeah hey you know look at how the muslims here are PATRIOTS!

but hey you know yuri from my avatar said that after the "brainwashing" takes effect you'll have a generation of people who won't believe they're wrong/incorrect even if you place evidence right in front of them, and while i'm not saying that this "#khantroversy" is 100% that, still, the doublethink with so many things going on = truly mindblowing a la good ol budd dwyer and perhaps even his legendary tribute song in the form of filter's "hey man nice shot"

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Jesus, some of you people have been to church too goddamn much. I have no idea what's going on in this thread.


Some prick killed some other prick and blamed it on God. The end.

Try telling that to Seacrest and JoRR when the topic is religion. Maybe someday they'll learn the uselessness of repetitive, subjective, and non conclusive arguments.


JORR is a professed atheist. :lol:


I don't think he really is. When it's his time to go he's definitely going to say a prayer.



It's possible, but I hope not. I would consider it a weakness right at the end. But I was brainwashed for many years.

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Jbi11s wrote:
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Jesus, some of you people have been to church too goddamn much. I have no idea what's going on in this thread.


Some prick killed some other prick and blamed it on God. The end.

Try telling that to Seacrest and JoRR when the topic is religion. Maybe someday they'll learn the uselessness of repetitive, subjective, and non conclusive arguments.


JORR is a professed atheist. :lol:

Who can't get enough of Islam? Atheists talk more religion than religious folk.


Because we're beaten over the head with it constantly. We're the true minority. I face religious microaggressions everyday.

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Eh... Sorry if that's your environment. Sometimes a person can become so affected by something they seek out evidence to validate their own delusions. I'm sure you're not that guy tho... Maybe with Islam.

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Eh... Sorry if that's your environment. Sometimes a person can become so affected by something they seek out evidence to validate their own delusions. I'm sure you're not that guy tho... Maybe with Islam.


:lol: I'm pretty certain I'm not the one with delusions. Imagine you lived in a world where most people you met actually believed in an imaginary being in the sky. I'm guessing you would seek out those relatively few who did not hold such delusions.

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It does no such thing! That's the problem with trying to debate you on this stuff. You know darn well that the OT is used in mass, it is taught in Diocese schools, it is the the whole scripture behind the "religious freedom" movement, yet to you it doesn't matter because Musilms are evil. Pick a lane dude. You can't go lumping the entire Muslim belief system together without also using your whole book of scripture.
(Apologies ahead of time for a large gap in responses now. I'm not ducking the debate. Rain finally stopped so I have to replace a fuel filter on this damn boat motor and get back to fishing.)


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If you're gonna play the "their scriptures say kill people card" then I'm not letting your ass off the hook on the OT. The Bibile doesn't get to start with the Gospels just because the OT doesn't fit your narrative.


Here is your original response.

Christianity and the Gospels do start and end with Christ. The reading of OT scripture is not done to teach behavior, it is done to teach the history of family. Where and how our ancestors got here leading up to Christ.

The problem for sake of debate comes in when you and others post what you were taught about Catholics, like it is the Gospel truth.

Christ was clear in what he taught. In word and action.

If you have a problem with the words and actions of Mohammed, I really don't know how to help you. If you want to criticize some of us here for pointing out what Muslims agree with, then that is certainly your perogative.

It's incredibly odd though to be criticized for simply saying the truth.

Ok so then quote Christ talking about homosexuality. And I want his words not any of this "well the whole NT is the divine word" cop out.


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"Faith" is just a way of saying you're better than somebody else.

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"Faith" is just a way of saying you're better than somebody else.


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What is one supposed to do if they don't believe in mythical cloud creatures? Pretend they do anyway as not to offend the "believers"?

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Eh... Sorry if that's your environment. Sometimes a person can become so affected by something they seek out evidence to validate their own delusions. I'm sure you're not that guy tho... Maybe with Islam.


:lol: I'm pretty certain I'm not the one with delusions. Imagine you lived in a world where most people you met actually believed in an imaginary being in the sky. I'm guessing you would seek out those relatively few who did not hold such delusions.


Jorr, have you ever read Mere Christianity (CS Lewis)? I am not a particularly religious person. However, when we decided to send our kids to a religious school, I felt it was important that I educate myself on what they would be taught in school. I went to that book because it is the conversion of an Atheist to Christianity and largely done based on logic and reasoning. I am not saying I buy into it, but I was struck by its discussion on morality and human guilt. While some would argue such things are learned, I came to the conclusion that there must be a higher power and absolute right or wrong.

It is amazing that when something is wrong, you just know it. If there was no such thing as absolute morality, it is hard to see why would feel guilt.

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no need to apologize

No biggie. Just putting out there why I'm in and out. Not any any of us on this board ever go "AH HAH! You have no reply I win!" after 5 mins of no replies ;-)


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Jesus, some of you people have been to church too goddamn much. I have no idea what's going on in this thread.


Some prick killed some other prick and blamed it on God. The end.

Try telling that to Seacrest and JoRR when the topic is religion. Maybe someday they'll learn the uselessness of repetitive, subjective, and non conclusive arguments.


JORR is a professed atheist. :lol:


I don't think he really is. When it's his time to go he's definitely going to say a prayer.


What about me? Think I'll say one?


I do. You have a family now. That tends to soften the hardest man.

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I do. You have a family now. That tends to soften the hardest man.


I hope not, but I don't begrudge you for your beliefs. I begrudge you for liking Hillary. :P

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For the first part of their history, up to the Paris attack last Fall, ISIS couldn't really be bothered to plan, prepare and carry out attacks outside the caliphate.

Graeme Wood noted: ISIS's leaders would tell people in other countries to get their asses to the caliphate and help
ISIS there; rather than engage in extra-caliphate activities.

After the Paris attack and ISIS's claim of responsibility, Wood works through an extensive
verbal floor routine to try to explain away ISIS attacking outside the caliphate:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ots-213360

Wood suggests, despite ISIS taking explicit responsibility, that Paris wasn't really ISIS's
operation; because ISIS's press release was rife with errors or wasn't in the usual font
or something. Finally Wood concedes that Paris was too well-planned, too military, too french-muslim,
too ISIS not to be ISIS.

So why's ISIS attacking outside the caliphate now?

One theory:

ISIS is losing territory and recruits; ISIS's people--trained, battled-experienced ISIS soliders--
are leaving the caliphate and carrying out these attacks outside the rubric of ISIS's overall
plan/strategy, an uncontrolled by ISIS terrorist-diaspora.

Another/other theories give ISIS more credit.

Yes, ISIS is losing territory and recruits and people aren't so willing to join up with or
even tolerate their presence these days. So how does ISIS carrying out an attack like Paris
address ISIS's recruitment and popularity issues? Wouldn't, say, entering and winning the
Euro song contest be a better way of getting attention, winning hearts and minds?

1. Advertising. Like when the NFL sends the Jaguars to Europe for a game. It reminds people the
Jaguars/ISIS exist and maybe some impressionable youngsters will see Blaine Gabbert
play QB and be motivated to go out and blow themselves up; or join ISIS.

2. More nuanced: ISIS needs more recruits from outside the caliphate, as they (Sunni) are a minority
in the caliphate regions. Where to get more muslim fighters who lift, can bench their weight and are willing to fite, irfl?

France has a lot of Muslims who fit the bill. Problem is most Muslims couldn't give a voler baise at a rolling baguette about politics. How do you get people to care about politics, get mad and thus maybe consider
joining up with ISIS?

One way is to carry out a bunch of "Muslim" terror attacks in France. Non-Muslim French
get pissed off and start acting aggressively anti-Muslim. The two sides se regarder en chiens de faïence. This
causes French Muslims who previously had a c'est la vie attitude toward politics to become
politicallly active and potentially ripe for ISIS recruitment.

3. Wolf at the door unites a divided house theory: As the caliphate loses territory, people
and popularity, getting the Great Satan (that's US) to come back to Iraq in large numbers
could help their recruitment both inside and outside the caliphate territories: "Look, the wolf is
at the door, we must fight the Great Satan, take this gun and join us."

4. France and the USA's stomach for extended, large-scale military excursions is weak, like Ukraine.

The current US-France coalition strategy of minimal coalition ground troops backed by air strikes
supporting local troops is working. It's hurting ISIS and it's not ruffling many or any
Pokeomon Goers feathers on American college campuses or in the 2nd Arrondissement.

If France and the USA go whole hog back into Iraq/Syria, the anti-war movements in both countries
ramp up, the citizens quickly become even more war weary and the coalition falls apart/departs.

At least that's one line of thinking. Might be true for France. Recall it was the French who
chose to s'enfuir or fuir from Vietnam before we got sucked into that quagmire. Figures Syria is another former French colony. Fucking French.


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"Faith" is just a way of saying you're better than somebody else.


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It does no such thing! That's the problem with trying to debate you on this stuff. You know darn well that the OT is used in mass, it is taught in Diocese schools, it is the the whole scripture behind the "religious freedom" movement, yet to you it doesn't matter because Musilms are evil. Pick a lane dude. You can't go lumping the entire Muslim belief system together without also using your whole book of scripture.
(Apologies ahead of time for a large gap in responses now. I'm not ducking the debate. Rain finally stopped so I have to replace a fuel filter on this damn boat motor and get back to fishing.)


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If you're gonna play the "their scriptures say kill people card" then I'm not letting your ass off the hook on the OT. The Bibile doesn't get to start with the Gospels just because the OT doesn't fit your narrative.


Here is your original response.

Christianity and the Gospels do start and end with Christ. The reading of OT scripture is not done to teach behavior, it is done to teach the history of family. Where and how our ancestors got here leading up to Christ.

The problem for sake of debate comes in when you and others post what you were taught about Catholics, like it is the Gospel truth.

Christ was clear in what he taught. In word and action.

If you have a problem with the words and actions of Mohammed, I really don't know how to help you. If you want to criticize some of us here for pointing out what Muslims agree with, then that is certainly your perogative.

It's incredibly odd though to be criticized for simply saying the truth.

Ok so then quote Christ talking about homosexuality. And I want his words not any of this "well the whole NT is the divine word" cop out.


I'm glad that we found some agreement.

I'm not a Protestant. I don't believe in just what you can find in the Bible.

Having said that, you know where homosexuality is discussed in the New Testament. And you also know what is stated can not be equivocated. If you think that the NT was not divinely inspired and is a cop out, we can agree to disagree.

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Atheism is based on the aggressive dislike of other people's imaginary best-friends.


in high school i had a rare philosophy class; rare in high school because most K-12 schools didn't wanna tackle the "god" issue one way or another and cause any butt/hurt/feelings (and this was a good ~15+ years b4 the age of >MUH FEELINGS) --- indeed, whenever we got into a good hearty philosophical discussion that tackled "the god issue" the classroom would literally split up into two opposing sides of desks/people: believers and non-believers. and of course in the end every argument basically came down to "you gotta have faith" which obviously ends up being the whole point of religion (outside of the meta stuff for social control/domain/power/etc and ofc wealth and prestige/status/etc) and thus our literal and figurative faceoff would always end up at that impasse by the time the period ended.

when you talk about "other people's imaginary best-friends" there's a connotation there that's ever so subtly slagging ppl off for the whole "imaginary friend" angle (which of course fits in with the contemporary thing where people (usually lefties) love to make the other side as infantile as possible) --- in the end since you really can't prove some kind of omnipotent creator exists yay or nay, it'd be best if people just avoided taking the little subtle shots at the other side because if you stop and think about it none of this really matters outside of meta stuff where ppl wanna apply their faith/beliefs to tangible/IRL policy/actions/crusades/whatever. the actual beliefs in and of themselves are innocuous/harmless unless you start applying them to things outside of yourself, IMO...

...but then again we're on a msgboard and arguing gets us through the (work)day so uhhh yeah fuck those dumbass babies clutching their imaginary deity in the sky! say what you will about moloch but at least he gives a hoot enough to come down here to the realm of the living and have a nice lil firey effigy every year or so! annuit coeptis giant-burning-owlus! (and yeah ofc that whole "annuit coeptis" thing works out pretty well for the moloch ppl, eh? MOLOCH 1, "GOD" 0..... ALLAH 784!)

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Atheism is based on the aggressive dislike of other people's imaginary best-friends.



"Faith" is just a way of saying you're better than somebody else.


Wrong.

We would have accepted "being a Fenwick graduate" though.

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Don Tiny wrote:
Hussra wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Hussra wrote:
Atheism is based on the aggressive dislike of other people's imaginary best-friends.



"Faith" is just a way of saying you're better than somebody else.


you're the one going to hell.

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