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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:21 pm 
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No, this was not ransom money, as the State Dept. spokesman says.

It was arms money. $400 mil. can buy a lot of rockets to shoot against Israel.

That will be the end result, no matter what the money is called.

From the Times of Israel, "The Obama White House hates Benjamin Netanyahu."

http://www.timesofisrael.com/why-obama- ... ice-versa/

We have the "Traitor in Chief" in the White House.



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Don't like that the timing of this payment; makes it appear we/the US and A paid ransom. Our/The USA's long-standing policy of NOT paying ransom has kept Americans overseas from being the target of random kidnappers the way, say, Italians (who pay ransom for all hostages) are.


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Geesh that's a deep article.....I've never read anything like the theories outlined in it. The mere idea that the 10 month Israeli settlement freeze made it harder for Abbas to compromise is a weird concept.

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As I said earlier. Treason is as treason does.
Since the illegal money laundered ransom payment, Obama's partners have kidnapped two more Americans and a Brit and a Frog, I think.
Smartest man in the room is so awesome us regular folk can't even keep up.

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$400M? Just a down payment. Sent Tehran $1.7B.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-0 ... ensure-ira


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MARGARET BRENNAN, CBS NEWS: It would be easy for you to kill the argument [that there is anything suspicious about the payment] by saying this is exactly how it happened and why -- not just: Trust us there is nothing shady about a plane arriving in the middle of the night loaded with cash. Which is, you're saying it is innuendo. Right? You're saying nothing was done that was not above board. So why not?

JOSH EARNEST, OBAMA ADMINISTRATION: I guess the point that I'm trying to make is, we could not possibly have been more transparent about this arrangement than to have the president of the U.S. announce it to all of you on live national television on the day it took place.

BRENNAN: The date the agreement was reached and the intent to pay to $1.7 billion, yes. But the details, you're saying this is a new detail on an old story. I guess, clarifying the detail is what would help-

EARNEST: But why is that relevant? Why is that relevant? Particularly when we all know there is no banking relationship between the U.S. and Iran, so again...

BRENNAN: But the details. The transfer was from the trust fund, to this bank, to this bank. Or it had to be in Euros and Francs because we don't have a banking relationship because it is complicated. That would be a really simple thing that people would be able to follow.

EARNEST: None of what you have walked through changes the basic facts here. We acknowledged back on January 17 that there would be all kinds of innuendo hurled by people who oppose engagement with Iran... I recognize the details that you are trying to illicit might make for a colorful news story, but they don't change the facts!

EARNEST: I understand the political attacks that are being made by people who are trying to justify their opposition to the deal--

BRENNAN: At a minimum the $1.3 billion is taxpayer money? Don't people have a right to have an answer to that question?


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MARGARET BRENNAN, CBS NEWS: It would be easy for you to kill the argument [that there is anything suspicious about the payment] by saying this is exactly how it happened and why -- not just: Trust us there is nothing shady about a plane arriving in the middle of the night loaded with cash. Which is, you're saying it is innuendo. Right? You're saying nothing was done that was not above board. So why not?

JOSH EARNEST, OBAMA ADMINISTRATION: I guess the point that I'm trying to make is, we could not possibly have been more transparent about this arrangement than to have the president of the U.S. announce it to all of you on live national television on the day it took place.

BRENNAN: The date the agreement was reached and the intent to pay to $1.7 billion, yes. But the details, you're saying this is a new detail on an old story. I guess, clarifying the detail is what would help-

EARNEST: But why is that relevant? Why is that relevant? Particularly when we all know there is no banking relationship between the U.S. and Iran, so again...

BRENNAN: But the details. The transfer was from the trust fund, to this bank, to this bank. Or it had to be in Euros and Francs because we don't have a banking relationship because it is complicated. That would be a really simple thing that people would be able to follow.

EARNEST: None of what you have walked through changes the basic facts here. We acknowledged back on January 17 that there would be all kinds of innuendo hurled by people who oppose engagement with Iran... I recognize the details that you are trying to illicit might make for a colorful news story, but they don't change the facts!

EARNEST: I understand the political attacks that are being made by people who are trying to justify their opposition to the deal--

BRENNAN: At a minimum the $1.3 billion is taxpayer money? Don't people have a right to have an answer to that question?

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Treason is better defined by bad/criminal actions that directly cause the loss of thousands of American lives & waste of trillions of US dollars. Wake me when better actors than Bibi& his ilk together with the chickenhawks at Heritage Foundation are the ones leading the scream fests.

Hatchetman is right.

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Cash? In an unmarked plane? WTF?

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We literally gave them back their money.

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Big Chicagoan wrote:
MARGARET BRENNAN, CBS NEWS: It would be easy for you to kill the argument [that there is anything suspicious about the payment] by saying this is exactly how it happened and why -- not just: Trust us there is nothing shady about a plane arriving in the middle of the night loaded with cash. Which is, you're saying it is innuendo. Right? You're saying nothing was done that was not above board. So why not?

JOSH EARNEST, OBAMA ADMINISTRATION: I guess the point that I'm trying to make is, we could not possibly have been more transparent about this arrangement than to have the president of the U.S. announce it to all of you on live national television on the day it took place.

BRENNAN: The date the agreement was reached and the intent to pay to $1.7 billion, yes. But the details, you're saying this is a new detail on an old story. I guess, clarifying the detail is what would help-

EARNEST: But why is that relevant? Why is that relevant? Particularly when we all know there is no banking relationship between the U.S. and Iran, so again...

BRENNAN: But the details. The transfer was from the trust fund, to this bank, to this bank. Or it had to be in Euros and Francs because we don't have a banking relationship because it is complicated. That would be a really simple thing that people would be able to follow.

EARNEST: None of what you have walked through changes the basic facts here. We acknowledged back on January 17 that there would be all kinds of innuendo hurled by people who oppose engagement with Iran... I recognize the details that you are trying to illicit might make for a colorful news story, but they don't change the facts!

EARNEST: I understand the political attacks that are being made by people who are trying to justify their opposition to the deal--

BRENNAN: At a minimum the $1.3 billion is taxpayer money? Don't people have a right to have an answer to that question?

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Dignified Rube wrote:
That will be the end result, no matter what the money is called.
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What, you mean Iran eventually joining the world banking scheme, erm, scene? Or wait is that the end end result and we're just talking the end result?

Btw doesn't Israel have the Samson or Solomon or [s-something] option where if someone threatens legit aggression it's like "fuck it instant Mexican standoff without the Mexicans" ???

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We literally gave them back their money.



what the hell? give back something we took? Couldn't we just have given the Iranians a stake in some riverboat casinos in Missouri.


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Guess they couldn't send it electronically. It would break all the anti-terrorist money transfer laws.

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I'm with Obama on this one. I think Iran timed the hostage release to make it appear that it was a ransom payment. The Iranians have a history of this sort of thing.

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I'm with Obama on this one. I think Iran timed the hostage release to make it appear that it was a ransom payment. The Iranians have a history of this sort of thing.


Now we know how Obama got to be President, when there's always been people to apologize for his misdeeds, in this case treason, like yourself.

You would probably have said, too, "Yes, he might have sat in Rev. Wright's America hating church, but he never listened, even with those big ears!"

It can't be coincidence when one of the American hostages, as reported by several outlets, said in an interview today that he was told by his Iranian captors that unless a second plane arrived, his plane would not be taking off. Additionally, it was also reported that State Dept. spokesmen refused to say whether the plane carrying money arrived before or after the plane carrying the American hostages departed. Hmmm.


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LTG isn't an Obama fan.

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Nas wrote:
LTG isn't an Obama fan.


He didn't get the memo. In addition is the fact that I stated previously that he was lying about Jeremiah Wright.

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I'm with Obama on this one. I think Iran timed the hostage release to make it appear that it was a ransom payment. The Iranians have a history of this sort of thing.


Now we know how Obama got to be President, when there's always been people to apologize for his misdeeds, in this case treason, like yourself.

You would probably have said, too, "Yes, he might have sat in Rev. Wright's America hating church, but he never listened, even with those big ears!"

It can't be coincidence when one of the American hostages, as reported by several outlets, said in an interview today that he was told by his Iranian captors that unless a second plane arrived, his plane would not be taking off. Additionally, it was also reported that State Dept. spokesmen refused to say whether the plane carrying money arrived before or after the plane carrying the American hostages departed. Hmmm.



They used to pull stunts like this during the 80's. They'd strategically release hostages as a way of screwing with the American political system. Helped cost Carter the 80 election.

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LTG isn't an Obama fan.


He didn't get the memo. In addition is the fact that I stated previously that he was lying about Jeremiah Wright.


:lol: I know. It's just easier to label you so he can dismiss your thoughts.

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Dignified Rube wrote:
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I'm with Obama on this one. I think Iran timed the hostage release to make it appear that it was a ransom payment. The Iranians have a history of this sort of thing.


Now we know how Obama got to be President, when there's always been people to apologize for his misdeeds, in this case treason, like yourself.

You would probably have said, too, "Yes, he might have sat in Rev. Wright's America hating church, but he never listened, even with those big ears!"

It can't be coincidence when one of the American hostages, as reported by several outlets, said in an interview today that he was told by his Iranian captors that unless a second plane arrived, his plane would not be taking off. Additionally, it was also reported that State Dept. spokesmen refused to say whether the plane carrying money arrived before or after the plane carrying the American hostages departed. Hmmm.



They used to pull stunts like this during the 80's. They'd strategically release hostages as a way of screwing with the American political system. Helped cost Carter the 80 election.


Thank God.


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It's the President's birthday. Best President in my lifetime:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/55- ... mg00000067


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It's the President's birthday. Best President in my lifetime:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/55- ... mg00000067


Terrible article from a piece of shit cuck rag. Saint Ronald laughs from throne I'm Heaven.


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Hussra wrote:
It's the President's birthday. Best President in my lifetime:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/55- ... mg00000067


Terrible article from a piece of shit cuck rag. Saint Ronald laughs from throne I'm Heaven.


Hopefully he's in hell waiting for freaky William Blythe

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Nas wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Hussra wrote:
It's the President's birthday. Best President in my lifetime:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/55- ... mg00000067


Terrible article from a piece of shit cuck rag. Saint Ronald laughs from throne I'm Heaven.


Hopefully he's in hell waiting for freaky William Blythe


Nope. He brought America back to prominence in the world and he did the same with Heaven.


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long time guy wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
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I'm with Obama on this one. I think Iran timed the hostage release to make it appear that it was a ransom payment. The Iranians have a history of this sort of thing.


Now we know how Obama got to be President, when there's always been people to apologize for his misdeeds, in this case treason, like yourself.

You would probably have said, too, "Yes, he might have sat in Rev. Wright's America hating church, but he never listened, even with those big ears!"

It can't be coincidence when one of the American hostages, as reported by several outlets, said in an interview today that he was told by his Iranian captors that unless a second plane arrived, his plane would not be taking off. Additionally, it was also reported that State Dept. spokesmen refused to say whether the plane carrying money arrived before or after the plane carrying the American hostages departed. Hmmm.



They used to pull stunts like this during the 80's. They'd strategically release hostages as a way of screwing with the American political system. Helped cost Carter the 80 election.


Thank God.


Jimmy Carter was a true humanitarian. a man of honor and integrity. Unfortunately he wasn't a good President and set the liberal movement back at least a generation

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They used to pull stunts like this during the 80's. They'd strategically release hostages as a way of screwing with the American political system. Helped cost Carter the 80 election.


My Congressional Rep., Roskam from Glen Ellyn, was on Greta's show on Fox tonight. He didn't mince words, saying unreservedly that this payment was "illegal." If true, that would be grounds for impeachment.

On top of that, there were people in the DOJ that objected to the payment. So what lawyers was Obama talking about that advised him to make the payment, when he overrode the DOJ's objection?


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