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The Sanders Movement Is Only Beginning

Here they come. While the media focuses on the spectacle of Donald Trump’s implosion, what Jane Sanders calls the “next chapter” of the Sanders political revolution is already beginning.

Last week, Pramila Jayapal, one of the rising stars of the Bernie Sanders movement, won a decisive victory in the primary race for Washington’s 7th Congressional District. She will advance to the November general election, where she is favored to win. She is not alone. Jamie Raskin, a progressive state legislator and leading constitutional authority on civil rights and voting rights, won his primary to fill an open Democratic seat in Maryland. Zephyr Teachout, who literally wrote the book on political corruption and challenged New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) in the gubernatorial race two years ago, is running a brilliant campaign in an uphill battle for a Republican-held seat in New York.

These are not corporate or Blue Dog Democrats. These are “small d” democrats running movement campaigns. They aren’t running for power’s sake; they are running to change America.

“The vision has to be to fundamentally change the system,” Jayapal says, carrying the Sanders message that “corporations and special interests have their voice in Congress, and they have too many members scared of their power. What Congress needs is a progressive voice who is unafraid to take on these powerful interests — who is willing to fight for all Americans, not just the wealthiest 1 percent.”

Added Sanders: “When you think of the political revolution, I want you to think about Pramila.”

Jayapal is a true organizer. An immigrant from India, she has been a leader in Seattle’s progressive community for more than a decade. After 9/11, she started what became the civil rights advocacy group OneAmerica, organizing in immigrant communities for basic rights, while helping to lead Seattle’s “fight for $15” hike in the minimum wage, building coalitions to empower workers and holding corporations accountable. Jayapal and Raskin will lead a progressive surge in Congress as the Sanders movement becomes a challenge to reactionary Republicans and corporate Democrats.

Sanders and his supporters are intent on giving these efforts institutional backing. The Vermont senator has announced the formation of Our Revolution, which will support progressive candidates up and down the ticket. Organizers from the Sanders campaign have launched Brand New Congress, an ambitious effort to run 400-plus populist candidates for Congress — including independents and Republicans as well as Democrats — in 2018, with “a single, unified campaign with a single plan,” and centralized crowd-sourced financing — small donors contributing to a national pool in a historic effort to transform a Congress that is corrupt and dysfunctional. These new efforts will augment progressive groups like the Working Families Party, MoveOn.org, Democracy for America, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and People’s Action, all of whom are growing in energy and ambition in the wake of the Sanders campaign.


Berniecrats.net, a website listing all active candidates at every level who endorsed Sanders in the primary, already has some 480 entries. Most of these are long shots running shoestring campaigns. But if the more than 2 million individual Sanders campaign supporters do move in large numbers to support Our Revolution and other offshoots in 2016, these challenges will get more serious in 2018 and 2020.

One example of the potential is Tim Canova’s upstart challenge to Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the former head of the Democratic National Committee, in Florida. Wasserman Schultz, the epitome of a corporate Democrat —pro-Trans-Pacific Partnership, pro-Wall Street, pro-big-money politics— has never had a primary challenge in her previous six races. Canova got into the race to expose her traditional money politics: “She has been taking millions of dollars from the biggest Wall Street banks and corporations and I started looking at her voting record and it is lined up with these corporate interests,” he said.

With Sanders’s support, Canova now has raised a stunning $2.8 million, largely in small donations, just shy of Wasserman Schultz’s $3 million. The district voted for Clinton by more than 2 to 1 in the Democratic presidential primary, so Wasserman Schultz is still the overwhelming favorite. But she is feeling the Bern, and other Democrats in the Wall Street wing of the party are likely to get the message as well.

What is clear is that the Sanders revolution is only beginning. His campaign forced Democrats to have a real debate about ideas. He mobilized volunteers and inspired enthusiasm, particularly among the young. He raised unprecedented sums in small donations. Now he and his supporters are moving to build the political revolution that too many in the media mocked at the beginning of this year.

This won’t be easy. Big-money interests still dominate. Political participation remains low. Elected officials who are not scandal-ridden are hard to displace without massive mobilizations that change opinion and turnout.

Vice President Biden commented recently that “Bernie did more to change the party than the party did to change him.” That remains to be seen. What is clear is that Sanders and his supporters are moving to prove just that.

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Bernie Sanders Buys $600K Lakefront Summer House

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And Communist (former) Leader Fidel Castro was worth $900M in 2006.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/2006-05-04-castro_x.htm

That's the funny part of leftist leaders who advocate for equality of outcomes. They tend to get rich, while the country as a whole gets poorer. I'll take a flawed capitalist system that increases the total pie than a system of repressive government policies that restricts the economy from reaching its potential.

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 Post subject: Re: The Sanders Movement
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Whether a third party or even a significant caucus comes out of a pure split from a traditional party, or of a coalescing of factions across parties (either the centrists from both, or the local jobs anti-NAFTA protectionist folks who support either Bernie or Trump) ,they're going to have to start at the local level. Win a couple of state rep slots, then aim for a couple of Congressional seats.

The holy grail is the Senate, because even getting say 3 Senate seats in swing states could cause legislative mayhem if nobody ever has a majority.

This is what Jesse Ventura and his supporters couldn't pull off in Minnesota a decade ago. They weren't well enough organized.

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Jayapal is no friend of mine.


The fees are a joke.

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 Post subject: Re: The Sanders Movement
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And Communist (former) Leader Fidel Castro was worth $900M in 2006.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/2006-05-04-castro_x.htm

That's the funny part of leftist leaders who advocate for equality of outcomes. They tend to get rich, while the country as a whole gets poorer. I'll take a flawed capitalist system that increases the total pie than a system of repressive government policies that restricts the economy from reaching its potential.


He says he's a socialist...and yet he buys food to eat and clothes to wear. By his own logic, he just proved my point. *kicks up legs on desk, crosses them, knots hands behind head, smiles*

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 Post subject: Re: The Sanders Movement
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are we going to call the modest progressive movement in the city of Chicago that started well before Sanders was considered anything more than an ineffective whack job from a maple syrup republic part of the sanders movement?

Sanders rode a wave. He didn't start a movement.

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are we going to call the modest progressive movement in the city of Chicago that started well before Sanders was considered anything more than an ineffective whack job from a maple syrup republic part of the sanders movement?

Sanders rode a wave. He didn't start a movement.


This is correct. This movement was going to happen one way or another, building on Occupy and anti-globalization protests. If it hadn't been Sanders, it would have been someone else. Maybe Elizabeth Warren. Maybe Russ Feingold (who's probably going to win his Senate seat back in the fall). I think it worked out well that Bernie presented himself as such a passionate and principled guy, but no one was waiting specifically to coalesce around Bernie Sanders.

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Still waiting to hear what will actually come from this....

Even Hillary seemingly has forgotten about it.

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Bernie has Rick on the run.

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Still waiting to hear what will actually come from this....

Even Hillary seemingly has forgotten about it.


A lot of change can come from it as long as frauds aren't made the de facto leader.

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Still waiting to hear what will actually come from this....

Even Hillary seemingly has forgotten about it.


A lot of change can come from it as long as frauds aren't made the de facto leader.


No worries. Hillary seems perfectly content representing the establishment.

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Still waiting to hear what will actually come from this....

Even Hillary seemingly has forgotten about it.


A lot of change can come from it as long as frauds aren't made the de facto leader.


No worries. Hillary seems perfectly content representing the establishment.


She will do what she needs to do to get a 2nd term. As long as people aren't silent she will fall in line.

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 Post subject: Re: The Sanders Movement
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It seems like the true revolution will be taking place inside the Sanders movement. It seems like a number of Sanders supporters feel betrayed by him. I don't think they want him to be the leader of this particular movement any longer.

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Jayapal is no friend of mine.


The fees are a joke.

:lol: :lol: Don Tiny is gonna kill us.

I hate to poop on the joke but me no get it.

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Jayapal is no friend of mine.


The fees are a joke.

:lol: :lol: Don Tiny is gonna kill us.

I hate to poop on the joke but me no get it.


Neither do I, so I'll just assume he called you a racist.

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The holy grail is the Senate, because even getting say 3 Senate seats in swing states could cause legislative mayhem if nobody ever has a majority.

Yeah, because we have two independent members in the Senate right now and that is really stirring the pot.

You don't go into the Senate as a lone wolf unwilling to side with one of the two parties. Doing so means you get no committee seats and you'll be the most powerless person in the building, unless the Vice President decides to show up for shits and gigs.


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man i had some burger king before (rodeoburger and an order of their tacos) and man i just had me a nasty "sanders movement" that was definitely hearkening the big "D" in my "democratic ""party""" (altho i only technically caucus with them cuz i'm more of an imodium guy)

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Don Tiny wrote:
spmack wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
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Jayapal is no friend of mine.


The fees are a joke.

:lol: :lol: Don Tiny is gonna kill us.

I hate to poop on the joke but me no get it.


That hurts.

Paypal.


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Peoria Matt wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
spmack wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
spmack wrote:
Jayapal is no friend of mine.


The fees are a joke.

:lol: :lol: Don Tiny is gonna kill us.

I hate to poop on the joke but me no get it.


That hurts.

Paypal.

I deduced that much ... I just was hoping/presuming there was more to it than that.

Terrible.

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The holy grail is the Senate, because even getting say 3 Senate seats in swing states could cause legislative mayhem if nobody ever has a majority.

Yeah, because we have two independent members in the Senate right now and that is really stirring the pot.

You don't go into the Senate as a lone wolf unwilling to side with one of the two parties. Doing so means you get no committee seats and you'll be the most powerless person in the building, unless the Vice President decides to show up for shits and gigs.


Yeah, these would just be very left-wing Democrats, though honestly, as difficult as taking on the Democrats as a third party would be, changing the party from within almost seems harder sometimes.

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Still waiting to hear what will actually come from this....

Even Hillary seemingly has forgotten about it.


Huh? He and his former staffers are trying to get progressives elected to public office in an effort to destroy the corporate wing of the Democratic party.

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Still waiting to hear what will actually come from this....

Even Hillary seemingly has forgotten about it.


Huh? He and his former staffers are trying to get progressives elected to public office in an effort to destroy the corporate wing of the Democratic party.
I'm trying to become a billionaire. That doesn't mean I have a very good chance at doing it.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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Still waiting to hear what will actually come from this....

Even Hillary seemingly has forgotten about it.


Huh? He and his former staffers are trying to get progressives elected to public office in an effort to destroy the corporate wing of the Democratic party.
I'm trying to become a billionaire. That doesn't mean I have a very good chance at doing it.


So you're saying it's difficult to fight corporate power and make government more responsive to the interests of ordinary people? Who knew?

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